Hey everyone
I’ve come across a list of countries that are said to be crypto-friendly with taxes. It includes places like Germany, Portugal, Malta, and a few others. Anyone here from those countries who has actually exchanged crypto and dealt with taxes?
Countries with low crypto taxes and how to cash out
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#2Oct 21, 2020, 08:19 PM
What’s the amount you wanna exchange? A small sum or something huge?
If you’re thinking of big bucks, it’s probably safer to move to that country first and get tax residency. Just doing a quick exchange and transferring it back home might attract some unwanted attention from tax authorities.
Lol. Seriously, clarify what you mean by "crypto-friendly." If it’s legal to profit from crypto, sure, but the tax rates can still bite you up to 49.5%!
I sold some crypto for euros and yeah, taxes weren't fun.
greg_walletNewbie
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#4Oct 22, 2020, 02:01 AM
Wait, is that income tax or capital gains tax?
Sounds a lot like you're asking for a tax dodge, not a solid plan!
just_ravenNewbie
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#5Oct 22, 2020, 02:24 AM
Establishing tax residency isn’t easy. In Malta, you need to be there for over 183 days a year. They don’t want you just using it as a tax loophole.
Even if you sell your crypto in a tax-friendly country, it doesn’t let you dodge taxes at home. If you profit, it’s taxed where you reside.
satoshi_moonHero Member
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#7Oct 23, 2020, 03:55 AM
If avoiding taxes is the goal, how about P2P trading? Cash in hand, no fuss. Just make sure it’s legit. In my place, we barely pay any taxes on crypto.
Ugh. In my country, capital gains tax is 53%.
Honestly, just pay what you owe.
You want to skip taxes, yet need your bank involved? That doesn't add up. Big amounts will raise red flags. Selling for cash or using non-KYC ATMs might be the way to go.
raven_2020Member
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#10Oct 23, 2020, 03:21 PM
Crypto-friendly doesn’t mean tax-free. Every country wants their cut. If you’re banking it, you’ll have to follow your local laws, or that’s tax evasion.
Are you from the EU? There are some tax-free options for crypto.
For example, in Germany, you can trade Bitcoin without any VAT.
satoshi_apeNewbie
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#12Oct 24, 2020, 12:44 AM
But what about Indonesia? No taxes on Bitcoin here, I just withdraw to my local bank without issues.
shard_2019Senior Member
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#13Oct 24, 2020, 02:58 AM
Heard similar things about Singapore. No tax on trading crypto, but if you buy stuff with Bitcoin, that’s taxable.
Spain should be on the list too. Last I checked, they have no taxes on crypto.
You’re mixing two different things here. VAT is one thing, but in Germany, after holding BTC for a year, you can sell tax-free.
CryptoRocketNewbie
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#16Oct 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
I’ve exchanged crypto in a couple of those countries. Not sure about all the rules, but from what I know, taxes apply once you convert.
wizard_2016Full Member
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#17Oct 24, 2020, 05:51 PM
Keeping crypto in a custodial wallet helps with tracking, but you don’t HAVE to. If you hold for over a year, you might not even need to report it.
greg_walletNewbie
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#18Oct 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Heads up for US folks. If you’re a citizen, you gotta pay taxes on capital gains, no matter where you sell.
raven_2020Member
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#19Oct 25, 2020, 12:33 AM
Spain doesn’t have a specific framework for crypto yet, but they’re sending out notices to thousands of crypto owners.
wizard_2016Full Member
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#20Oct 25, 2020, 03:02 AM
Not sure what you're saying, but the OP wants to cash out BTC they’ve held for years.
Didn’t someone mention that if you’re a US citizen abroad, you might owe taxes to both countries?
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