The Ongoing Saga of Bitcoin ETFs in the U.S.

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planktonHero Member
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#1Jul 11, 2017, 06:21 AM
So what's the deal with Grayscale's push to turn GBTC into a spot ETF? SEC just shot them down, citing high risks. Why does a futures ETF get the green light when it's riskier? 🤔
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serHero Member
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#2Jul 13, 2017, 08:38 AM
Honestly, I don't get the fuss. Futures don't have actual BTC backing them, making them less risky, right? The spot ETF has more risk because of the actual buying and storing of BTC. Something else is up with the SEC's reasoning, imo.
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planktonHero Member
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#3Jul 13, 2017, 10:18 AM
Grayscale's situation is a total mystery. They claim it’s discrimination. Now they’re dragging the SEC to court to explain themselves. Makes you think what’s really going on behind closed doors.
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#4Jul 13, 2017, 01:20 PM
Just checked out Grayscale’s Bitcoin Trust. Seems like they're just a mutual fund, right? They have a manager and a custodian, Coinbase. So how risky can it be, really?
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#5Jul 13, 2017, 05:03 PM
This whole ETF thing is wild. I suspect SEC chairman Gensler is a bit salty about Grayscale’s name. But seriously, why block a spot ETF? Seems like they just want to halt the whole crypto scene.
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#6Jul 13, 2017, 10:30 PM
Saw the news that Grayscale might have won a lawsuit against the SEC? If that's true, it could mean big things for the ETF approval process.
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#7Jul 14, 2017, 02:14 AM
It's baffling why futures ETFs get approved while spot ones don’t. I think most traders already know what they're getting into with futures.
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#8Jul 14, 2017, 07:30 AM
If Grayscale manages to get that spot ETF approved after Bitcoin hits its low, things might get interesting. The futures crowd seems to be losing steam.
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#9Jul 14, 2017, 10:28 AM
You know, Gensler might think he’s doing the right thing, but this could backfire on him big time.
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planktonHero Member
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#10Jul 14, 2017, 12:47 PM
LOL, the SEC is really in a corner here. They have to explain why they approve one and not the other. Could be anything, honestly.
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#11Jul 14, 2017, 01:58 PM
Seems like the SEC is losing a ton of cases lately. Grayscale, XRP, Binance... if they keep this up, it’ll be interesting to see the fallout.
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planktonHero Member
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#12Jul 14, 2017, 05:02 PM
But are they really losing money? They’ve racked up some serious fines from exchanges. The whole thing seems off.
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#13Jul 15, 2017, 01:21 PM
That’s true... but I doubt they’re sweating over legal costs. The spot ETF saga is dragging on and on.
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planktonHero Member
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#14Jul 15, 2017, 06:43 PM
What do you mean by costs? Like, how much do they actually spend fighting these cases? Got any numbers?
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#15Jul 15, 2017, 07:34 PM
I don’t have stats, but they’ve filed a ton of actions. They’re definitely busy in court.
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planktonHero Member
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#16Jul 15, 2017, 10:28 PM
Yeah, but they’re also making bank from fines. If they don’t approve the ETFs soon, we might see some price movement.
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#17Jul 16, 2017, 03:32 AM
Let’s be real, the SEC isn’t losing much money. They profit off fines. Just wondering when they’ll approve the ETFs. Maybe after the halving?
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planktonHero Member
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#18Jul 16, 2017, 04:09 AM
I feel like the SEC is trying to keep capital from flowing into crypto. A spot ETF would attract serious money and disrupt the old guard.
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#19Jul 18, 2017, 03:05 AM
Dude, the market has been influenced by various factors, not just the SEC. Exchanges crashing, China bans, Even Elon messing around.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#20Jul 18, 2017, 05:58 AM
But who’s manipulating the market? I’d love to know. All these early adopters are still anonymous.
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