Navigating Tax Implications for Crypto Transactions

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0xGweiFull Member
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#1Mar 22, 2017, 09:53 PM
I opened a wallet registered in Switzerland, but my personal details are all US-based. If I trade crypto using this wallet, can I avoid capital gains tax? Technically, I’d just move the cash to my bank account without tax, right?
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laseryesSenior Member
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#2Mar 23, 2017, 03:42 AM
nope, not how it works. the moment you convert to USD for your bank account, you gotta report it to the IRS. there’s no such thing as a ‘Swiss wallet’. crypto wallets aren't bound to countries.
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0xGweiFull Member
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#3Mar 25, 2017, 02:30 AM
What if I sell using my Swiss wallet and then gift the cash to my US-based Coinbase account? No tax on gifts received in the US, right? Just need to report them?
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0x4lphaFull Member
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#4Mar 25, 2017, 03:43 AM
Best to consult a crypto tax expert for this. If you're dealing with Swiss accounts, follow Swiss rules. But if you're in the US, you gotta stick to US tax laws regarding your US bank.
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0xGweiFull Member
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#5Mar 25, 2017, 04:05 AM
So is my plan actually sound? Sell via the Swiss wallet, gift it to Coinbase in the US, and cash out tax-free while noting it as a gift on my tax form?
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orbit1337Senior Member
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#6Mar 25, 2017, 06:37 AM
Are you actually looking for a clever loophole or just trying to evade taxes?
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0xGweiFull Member
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#7Mar 25, 2017, 11:46 AM
Loophole, not evasion. Sounds like the ideal plan, right? Trade with Swiss wallet, gift the cash, cash out tax-free, report it as a gift.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#8Mar 25, 2017, 03:05 PM
Coinbase isn't gonna recognize it as a gift when they report to the IRS. So when you declare it, it could raise red flags. Not a good move.
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orbit1337Senior Member
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#9Mar 25, 2017, 06:32 PM
You want to give yourself a gift for tax benefits? I’m not deep into US tax laws, but this feels like tax evasion to me.
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jake.altSenior Member
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#10Mar 25, 2017, 06:55 PM
Depends on your citizenship. If you’re a US citizen, your income is taxable no matter where it’s made. So don't think you can dodge US taxes just because of a Swiss address.
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viper23Member
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#11Mar 27, 2017, 01:32 AM
In my country, taxes still apply. If you’re registered, they’ll deduct tax automatically. Even if you buy property, income will be tracked. It varies by country.
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#12Mar 27, 2017, 03:31 AM
If you ain't making much money, finding loopholes is tough. Easiest thing is holding for a year and making under $47K. For businesses, you can play around with numbers or use charities for tax exemptions.
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0x4lphaFull Member
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#13Mar 27, 2017, 05:27 AM
Some folks see these loopholes as a way to dodge taxes altogether. Just saying.
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planktonHero Member
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#14Mar 27, 2017, 11:41 AM
Nah, a loophole is a legal way to minimize tax. But using them can attract scrutiny from tax agencies. If you keep your records straight, you’re probably fine.
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fork404Full Member
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#15Mar 27, 2017, 11:54 AM
I doubt you can make crypto tax-free. Best way to do that is hiding it from the authorities, which crosses into tax evasion.
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kevin1337Hero Member
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#16Mar 27, 2017, 05:33 PM
If you think loopholes aren’t evasion, are there services to help you find them legally? Seems like regular folks can’t access them, only the wealthy.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#17Mar 27, 2017, 11:42 PM
That’s just a poor strategy for evasion. Without tax residency in Switzerland, you’re breaking laws. As a US resident, selling anything for a profit means owing taxes, even if you think of it as a gift.
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planktonHero Member
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#18Mar 28, 2017, 09:24 PM
The rich exploit loopholes because they hire tax pros who know how to deal with the system. Average folks just get tax prep services, not loophole hunting.
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ju5t_h4shFull Member
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#19Mar 29, 2017, 01:33 AM
It’s all about who’s making the trades and holding the assets. Setup a more tax-efficient structure. Then that entity pays taxes, and you get a salary after.
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#20Mar 29, 2017, 04:24 AM
No such thing as a wallet tied to a physical address. It’s just your wallet. Unless you tell someone, they won’t know it’s yours. If you made it on an exchange, they see everything and will report to your government.
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