Navigating Bitcoin Self-Custody and Taxes in Brazil

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#1Mar 21, 2023, 11:10 AM
Hey everyone! I'm kinda new to the whole Bitcoin self-custody deal and could really use some advice. So, I buy BTC using the Bipa app and move it to my BlueWallet. But now with this 17% tax in Brazil, I'm kinda worried... My main questions are: 1. Does keeping BTC in my wallet actually keep me off the government's radar? 2. Any tips on how to minimize taxes or avoid declaring it?
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cobra21Full Member
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#2Mar 21, 2023, 02:47 PM
Yo, welcome! Yeah, it feels like Brazil's regulators just want to squeeze every little bit from crypto users. That 17.5% crypto tax is rough, especially for small investors like us. Really hard to dodge if you're using centralized exchanges. They’re just waiting to pounce.
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#3Mar 21, 2023, 05:33 PM
Bipa definitely requires KYC, so they’re aware of your transactions. Even if you transfer your coins, they still know what you're holding. You might wanna think about separating KYC coins from non-KYC coins. Use non-KYC exchanges for future purchases. Check out kycnot.me for options.
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tom.yieldNewbie
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#4Mar 23, 2023, 06:58 PM
For sure! Keeping your assets in a self-custodial wallet is key. Once you're on a centralized exchange, you're basically inviting regulations into your life. It's way better to manage your own keys and assets. Trust the process, don’t rely on third parties.
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0xHawkMember
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#5Mar 23, 2023, 07:05 PM
Exactly! Centralized exchanges will track everything. If you want your privacy, consider decentralized options instead. Stuff like Wasabi wallet can help with that.
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bull2020Full Member
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#6Mar 23, 2023, 10:20 PM
Using a DEX to buy Bitcoin and then sending it to your non-custodial wallet can unlink it from your identity. But it’s not foolproof. If you’ve ever sent or received BTC that can be traced back to a CEX, they might still find you. Better to create a new address for more privacy.
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nova42Newbie
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#7Mar 23, 2023, 10:58 PM
If you're looking to buy BTC without exposing yourself, peer-to-peer exchanges like HodlHodl or Bisq could work. Just check if they’re available where you are. Also, get yourself a hardware wallet. BlueWallet is okay, but it’s still a hot wallet better safe than sorry.
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tom.pixelHero Member
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#8Mar 24, 2023, 04:40 AM
You know Brazil is pretty integrated with crypto, right? I mean, the government’s gotta keep track of everything. Bipa is just giving them the info they need. You might feel secure in your wallet, but they know where those coins originally came from.
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chris1337Full Member
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#9Mar 24, 2023, 06:04 AM
Honestly, you should probably talk to a tax lawyer. They can lay out the laws and consequences for you. I can’t help you dodge taxes. I mean, if you get caught, it’s not gonna be pretty.
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#10Mar 26, 2023, 01:52 PM
If you're trying to avoid taxes, just make sure to be independent from the government. Keep your BTC away from centralized platforms. That way you won’t benefit from public services funded by those taxes. Honestly, it's tough though.
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gregblockNewbie
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#11Mar 26, 2023, 05:14 PM
Self-custody protects your ownership but doesn’t exempt you from taxes. Even if your country lifted the tax cap, it still exists. Just hold onto your Bitcoin for the long haul, that's the safest game plan.
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max365Newbie
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#12Mar 28, 2023, 10:36 PM
In my country, they tax you automatically when you make bank transactions to buy Bitcoin on CEX. So, taxes are just part of the game. You should definitely consult a tax advisor to deal with all this.
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hash51Newbie
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#13Mar 31, 2023, 12:14 AM
Honestly, that tax rate seems low. You could be in a worse spot! Just don’t try to play the system. The penalties can be brutal if you get caught.
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jake.seedNewbie
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#14Mar 31, 2023, 04:16 AM
Yeah, whether you're holding your coins in a custodial wallet or not, you're still liable for taxes if you decide to sell. Just keep records to avoid issues down the line.
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samlaserFull Member
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#15Mar 31, 2023, 10:03 AM
Buying from Bipa already links your identity to those coins, so don’t think you can evade taxes on what you’ve already purchased. Best bet for future buys? Look into decentralized platforms.
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LoneMoonHero Member
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#16Mar 31, 2023, 12:46 PM
So are you saying @OP should use cash or altcoins to get BTC? Then convert it through multiple exchanges to obscure the trail? Seems like a lot of hassle, tbh.
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#17Mar 31, 2023, 03:17 PM
If you do buy, don’t buy too much at once, otherwise they might get suspicious. Just keep moving small amounts around to stay under the radar.
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#18Apr 1, 2023, 04:57 AM
Welcome, by the way! Just remember, paying taxes is part of being a citizen. If you don’t like it, consider moving somewhere with fairer tax laws.
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0xDefiFull Member
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#19Apr 1, 2023, 10:41 AM
First move your BTC to self-custody. It's way harder for tax authorities to track you that way. But self-custody doesn’t mean you’re invisible, especially if your BTC came from a KYC exchange.
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alexsatNewbie
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#20Apr 1, 2023, 01:02 PM
Avoid dodging taxes! But I get the need for privacy. Consider selling goods or services for BTC instead it’s way less visible than going through an exchange.
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