Is There a Secret Mining Attack on Bitcoin?

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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#1Mar 21, 2022, 04:56 AM
Hey everyone Not trying to freak anyone out here, but I’ve got a theory. Just noticed that a huge chunk of mining power vanished from Bitcoin, like 50% at least. This has never happened before. Difficulty is adjusting, so that’s cool, but... what if this is some sneaky attack by Chinese miners?
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#2Mar 21, 2022, 07:12 AM
Aren't 51% attacks usually super risky? I mean, sure, they can do it, but at what cost? It would really mess with trust in crypto, right? Plus, it isn't just tech; it would take a ton of energy and resources.
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#3Mar 21, 2022, 09:35 AM
For real, it could turn into a total chain war over which one is the real Bitcoin. And if it starts, introducing a checkpoint might be too late. Still, can’t we limit chain reorgs to... I dunno, 12 blocks? That might force attackers to show their hand sooner.
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cobra51Newbie
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#4Mar 21, 2022, 09:57 AM
Yeah but checkpoints aren’t really made for that. You can’t just babysit Bitcoin all the time. We moved on from that to assumevalid. Hasn’t anyone considered how pointless it is if someone genuinely wants to attack?
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chris2016Member
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#5Mar 21, 2022, 01:00 PM
True, but it can help. Like Bitcoin Gold, they used checkpoints against a 51% attack... didn’t they? Just trying to think of ways to counteract any possible shady moves by miners.
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#6Mar 21, 2022, 03:26 PM
I think this moment is kinda special. A state actor could be using the hashed power to attack Bitcoin, and if they do it right, the damage could be pretty severe. Bitcoin’s whole value is based on that irreversibility, folks.
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#7Mar 21, 2022, 04:13 PM
Nah, it didn’t vanish overnight. Go check the diff changes over the last month. It’s been dropping gradually... not some sudden 50% drop. You can’t just throw out numbers like that without proof!
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#8Mar 21, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sure, but if someone planned this out, they could time a big attack to come back with new gear. I mean, it’s close enough to worry me. Long-term implications of rollback scare me. Fingers crossed it doesn’t happen.
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cobra51Newbie
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#9Mar 21, 2022, 08:07 PM
Kid you not, no way should we go back to checkpoints. It’s complicated and takes time for the network to adopt any changes. If someone is prepped to attack while we’re trying to adjust, we’d be vulnerable.
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#10Mar 22, 2022, 02:02 AM
C’mon, stealth attacks wouldn’t have this much commotion around them. With mining gear moving so much, you can’t claim stealth when you make all this noise.
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pr0to88Member
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#11Mar 22, 2022, 08:15 AM
I mean, it's a gradual process... it's not just overnight. Weight of evidence needs to be there, right?
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#12Mar 22, 2022, 01:50 PM
I think people underestimate 51% attacks. Just because you have the hash rate doesn't mean you can easily push other miners aside. They’ve already got too much invested.
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#13Mar 22, 2022, 03:47 PM
Right? The attackers starting late could fall behind significantly when they realize that they’re soloing it for weeks.
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#14Mar 22, 2022, 07:09 PM
Dude, fabricating transactions is pretty much impossible. The majority wouldn’t even want to use a manipulated chain. Rolling back the chain is way more sensible.
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cobra51Newbie
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#15Mar 23, 2022, 12:18 AM
You can technically create transactions as long as you control the outputs but it's messy. But if you can push this separate chain idea, it makes a difference.
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#16Mar 23, 2022, 02:28 AM
The hidden chain strategy has its perks. You can make some serious moves with exchanges before the main chain figures it out. It's risky, but... potential profits are massive!
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cobra51Newbie
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#17Mar 23, 2022, 02:51 AM
Yeah, but that kind of attack leaves you in a weird spot. If you’re rolling back history, then what’s left of Bitcoin’s value? Everyone will just panic and dump.
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gr1mtokenFull Member
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#18Mar 23, 2022, 04:17 AM
What if that happens? The value of everything just drops... you’d end up holding worthless coins and gear after.
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cobra51Newbie
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#19Mar 24, 2022, 11:07 AM
Exactly. If you execute that well, sure you might make a quick buck, but in the end, you’re risking everything by messing with the whole ecosystem.
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#20Mar 24, 2022, 02:43 PM
So, yeah, thoughtful insights here guys. I'm kinda relieved to talk about this without anyone freaking out yet. Let’s stay vigilant!
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