Another Empty Block? Antpool Strikes Again

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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#1Aug 3, 2022, 03:33 AM
Antpool just mined block 818960 completely empty. I can't believe this is happening again, especially when fees are sky-high.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#2Aug 3, 2022, 07:02 AM
Seems like luck played a big role here. They mined block 818959 and immediately got lucky again with block 818960 before adding any transactions.
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ColdGangMember
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#3Aug 3, 2022, 09:22 AM
Exactly, empty blocks can happen if a pool mines a block really quickly after another. It’s not always sabotage.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#4Aug 3, 2022, 10:37 AM
I think the zero fees might be due to the next block being broadcasted before they could add transactions. It helps miners get the next block quicker.
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#5Aug 3, 2022, 11:28 AM
When a pool mines, they have to update their mempool and collate fresh transactions, which takes a few seconds. That's why they often send out empty blocks in the meantime.
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block2013Senior Member
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#6Aug 3, 2022, 02:15 PM
If we're talking sabotage, I'm not sure it affects network security. Just seems wasteful to ignore all those mempool transactions.
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nonce88Hero Member
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#7Aug 3, 2022, 06:49 PM
Totally agree. Antpool could've included transactions since they know what's valid. They might just want the block reward and skip the verification.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#8Aug 3, 2022, 10:06 PM
It's frustrating for regular users, but honestly, the bigger losers are the miners in Antpool. They’re losing out on fees.
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#9Aug 4, 2022, 02:40 AM
Check out this link for a look at empty blocks over time. Lots of data there, but visualizing it isn’t easy.
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#10Aug 4, 2022, 08:28 AM
Back in the day, it was normal to have empty blocks since no one was using Bitcoin. Times were different.
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gwei_2018Full Member
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#11Aug 4, 2022, 09:32 AM
Exactly, there were moments with no transactions at all. Miners had no choice but to mine empty blocks back then.
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pixel_stakeSenior Member
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#12Aug 4, 2022, 11:34 AM
Just because they mined an empty block doesn’t mean it’s a conspiracy. They just happened to find it right after the last one.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#13Aug 4, 2022, 02:14 PM
I doubt they’d want to leave out all transactions intentionally. It’s more likely they didn’t have time to include them.
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#14Aug 4, 2022, 06:24 PM
If they could send out a filled block candidate immediately after verifying transactions, it’d be great. But that would lead to other issues.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#15Aug 5, 2022, 05:55 AM
The logistics of creating a full block while processing can get messy. Empty blocks sometimes help keep things simple.
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WildWolfMember
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#16Aug 5, 2022, 10:41 AM
Next block had 0.458 BTC in fees... but that was 12 minutes later. Higher fees could’ve been missed.
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pr0to88Member
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#17Aug 6, 2022, 04:12 AM
Exactly, they’d risk 6.25 BTC for a tiny fee gain. Not smart to gamble like that.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#18Aug 6, 2022, 07:24 AM
Stompix gets it. You don’t risk losing the jackpot for a small extra win.
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pr0to88Member
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#19Aug 6, 2022, 08:45 AM
Are they really taking long to add transactions? Seconds seem enough to fit at least some in.
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kevin2020Senior Member
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#20Aug 6, 2022, 10:01 AM
Not sabotage, just bad luck. Developers left a loophole open. They could force a timing mechanism to load transactions.
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