Hey, I've been trying to wrap my head around why Tornado Cash is getting so much heat while other mixers seem to fly under the radar. Seems a bit off to me, right? Shouldn’t they all be treated the same? I'm missing some context here.
Why is Tornado Cash in the Spotlight?
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5tack_h4shNewbie
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#2Feb 10, 2019, 04:47 PM
Tornado Cash is in trouble with the US Treasury for money laundering. They say it helped launder billions, which is why it's on their radar. It's always the mixers that get in trouble, right?
Totally true, but let's not forget that it's not the first mixer to get sanctioned. Just recently, Chipmixer was shut down too for the same reasons. So this isn’t new.
Exactly! But how come some mixers get targeted while others don’t? Like, how do they even know if a wallet's activities are shady? Can the mixer itself track that?
Mixing services aren’t illegal. They face consequences when users misuse them for illegal stuff. If they can trace funds back to a hack or scam, that’s when things get dicey.
f0rk_5tackNewbie
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#6Feb 13, 2019, 03:15 AM
Both Tornado Cash and Chipmixer were based in countries that would just do whatever the US says. They had a target on them since they were linked to North Korea, which made them way more vulnerable.
I think mixers always have a target on their backs, especially from US regulators. There’s a lot of debate on their role in privacy vs crime. I’ve never used one and probably won’t. Tornado Cash seems to be under fire for being popular with hackers.
True that! I wonder how long Sinbad mixer will last since it’s also linked to North Korean hackers. The dev seems pretty confident though.
Funny how banks get a pass on laundering compared to mixers. They never seem to get sanctioned.
Once a mixer gains traction and is linked to huge amounts of laundered money, the government gets serious. Especially when groups like Lazarus use it. That’s when the sanctions start.
It’s really about Tornado Cash being involved in a bunch of crime-related stuff. Other mixers haven’t had those issues, so they’re not in the spotlight. Integrity matters with mixers.
Tornado Cash was a major player, so the hit it took shocked the whole industry. They should have known the potential legal issues. But then again, this could apply to any big project.
No clear laws say mixers are illegal, but you can bet they’re all on some watchlist. Many have been taken down before Tornado Cash was even mentioned.
Exactly! It’s not like banks are laundering money themselves. It’s usually about their weak security measures.
I saw on Twitter that the dev might get electronic monitoring instead of jail. He’s allowed to work on his defense now.
US officials have been after Tornado for years. They think it’s been used for major laundering, like $7 billion worth. No wonder they're focused on it.
CalmFalconMember
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#17Feb 16, 2019, 11:23 PM
All mixers have some dirt under their nails in the eyes of the government. It’s just a matter of time before they get their turn to be targeted.
What do you mean by ‘economic friendliness’? A privacy-focused business won’t thrive if they share data with the government.
But what’s the alternative? Maybe mixers should clarify they don't support money laundering in their terms. Still doesn’t give them immunity.
There are tons of cases like Tornado Cash. The government keeps banning mixers because they’re seen as tools for crime.
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