Thinking About Shifting from GPU to ASIC Mining: What’s the Deal?

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raven2016Member
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#1Jul 24, 2018, 10:41 PM
Been into GPU mining since like 2013, started with one Radeon HD 7850 and went all the way to 200 GPUs during the ETH hype. Lost it all when a big investor bailed in 2018, so I cut down and just ran one rig for a while. Now that I can work from home, I'm eyeing ASIC farming.
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madbridgeFull Member
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#2Jul 25, 2018, 02:13 AM
I doubt GPU mining is gonna die anytime soon. There will always be something to mine and they’re super versatile for different tasks. But why are you leaning toward S9s? They're kinda dated, maybe check out newer models if you want better returns.
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raven2016Member
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#3Jul 25, 2018, 11:42 AM
For sure, GPU mining isn't going anywhere. But honestly, timing isn't great to dive back in with PoS looming. I plan to re-enter when prices drop. My focus is long-term.
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madbridgeFull Member
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#4Jul 25, 2018, 05:58 PM
Wait, this day-ahead index, that's a deal with the energy seller, right? Not ONCOR?
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raven2016Member
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#5Jul 25, 2018, 11:05 PM
Exactly, day-ahead prices are just for the energy generation part, but it still travels through ONCOR. If I can reduce usage in peak hours, it's a big deal. I’m not worried about S9s overheating, they’re old tech.
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#6Jul 26, 2018, 04:57 AM
Yeah true, but I think an experienced GPU miner might hesitate with ASICs. They lose value quicker than GPUs and if you don’t act fast, you could end up with useless hardware. Plus, mining ASICs really ties you down to one currency.
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raven2016Member
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#7Jul 26, 2018, 09:02 AM
Absolutely, I get that. I’ll keep a close eye on depreciation and revenue versus power costs. A miner that makes $3 revenue and uses $2 in power is risky compared to a newer model making $6. It's all about balancing risk.
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tony23Newbie
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#8Jul 26, 2018, 02:20 PM
Better to diversify and not bank on one coin. If DOGE tanks, my Antminer L3s go to waste. But if ETH goes PoS, many GPU miners might wish they switched to ASICs.
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raven2016Member
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#9Jul 26, 2018, 02:28 PM
Too bad you’re not in Europe. I’d partner with you, I have a decent capital set aside for a similar project.
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#10Jul 26, 2018, 04:26 PM
We’re planning to invite outside investors soon, offering hosted mining without contracts for international folks. U.S. investors can grab non-voting shares for tax perks.
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raven2016Member
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#11Jul 28, 2018, 10:58 AM
You mentioned profit from one ASIC. but what about the cost of engineers to keep everything running? I barely broke even in 2019 with low wattage.
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madbridgeFull Member
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#12Jul 28, 2018, 01:31 PM
Good point, that’s why I bought some older ASICs to test at home first. Gotta expect higher failure rates. My plan is to use them to ramp up power demand and score lower electric rates.
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bit2011Member
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#13Jul 28, 2018, 05:25 PM
Can you share some tips on dodging US taxes?
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raven2016Member
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#14Jul 28, 2018, 05:35 PM
Pretty straightforward. Get a reseller certificate to skip sales tax on hardware if you flip it quick enough. Electricity tax is trickier; it’s really for larger ops.
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madbridgeFull Member
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#15Jul 28, 2018, 09:44 PM
Interesting, I thought only manufacturing businesses got those exemptions. What’s the minimum scale to qualify?
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danmoonNewbie
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#16Jul 28, 2018, 11:07 PM
You can still make profits with ASICs, but BTC is tough. Most of it is mined already, and retail investors are squeezed out. Best bet is to buy coins instead.
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raven2016Member
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#17Jul 29, 2018, 04:33 AM
Yeah, new mineable coins can be a good call. Hop on them right when they drop.
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chad51Hero Member
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#18Jul 29, 2018, 05:54 AM
Sounds like a headache for customers just trying to save on taxes. Only worth it for big farms really.
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raven2016Member
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#19Jul 29, 2018, 09:04 AM
$380 for an Antminer S9? Is that even worth it right now?
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#20Jul 29, 2018, 02:15 PM
That was the price back when I kicked off this chat. Prices have dipped since then.
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