The Stagnation Dilemma in the UK

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#1May 19, 2017, 06:59 PM
Feels like the UK hit pause like a decade ago. Wages flat, jobs stagnant, young folks poorer than their parents. Seriously, since 2010, average families lost about £2,200 yearly. Meanwhile, pensioners barely notice anything. What's going on?
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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#2May 19, 2017, 10:23 PM
If housing is the problem, the government could really step up. They're the biggest landowner, right? Why not build some community housing? It'd help lower rents. Factories closing, so why are rents still sky-high? Owners just want cash, leaving low earners behind.
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alex21Full Member
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#3May 20, 2017, 02:10 AM
Honestly, the UK is suffering from some woke nonsense. Regular folks feel like second-class citizens. It’s wild how governments only seem to tune into public sentiment via social media.
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kevin_atlasFull Member
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#4May 21, 2017, 05:38 AM
The debt situation is crazy. The UK could be worse off if things go south. Reducing debt should be priority number one, right? Instead, they keep piling it on, relying on centralized control, which is just stagnating the whole economy.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#5May 21, 2017, 09:59 AM
4.4 million social housing units? That’s not enough. Public sector efficiency is a joke. The UK has strayed too far from free-market principles. And don’t get me started on the current government.
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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#6May 22, 2017, 03:29 PM
If housing is a mess, then we need to step up. I don’t get why some see this as a bad thing. The market has clearly failed to provide adequate housing.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#7May 22, 2017, 08:53 PM
Come on, repeating that won’t change reality. Look at the US. Californians flee to Texas because housing prices are dropping there while they rise in California. It’s all about policies.
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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#8May 23, 2017, 03:11 AM
The entire US is under a free market model, and yes, the downsides are real. When housing is left to the market, it’s all about profits, not people.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#9May 25, 2017, 09:27 AM
The UK government spending is massive, not just some casual spending. You can’t claim it’s a free market when taxes and regulations are everywhere.
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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#10May 25, 2017, 10:54 AM
So what? Because the government spends, it can't be capitalist? Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. The UK is somehow socialist? Give me a break.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#11May 25, 2017, 12:15 PM
Half of GDP isn’t just ‘some’ spending. Regulations and taxes are crushing. Starmer’s budget was a disaster, driving away wealth creators and making dependency the norm.
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alex21Full Member
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#12May 25, 2017, 07:39 PM
A lot of GDP goes to admin and pensions. The problem is a lot of people just complain instead of working on solutions. Positivity is key.
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0xCoinNewbie
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#13May 25, 2017, 11:27 PM
Debt combined with low growth is a real danger. If investors lose faith, servicing that debt will hurt. Higher taxes and inflation are coming, deepening the stagnation.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#14May 26, 2017, 02:23 AM
The current economic scene is worse than under Truss. But some still think the UK is a capitalist paradise. It’s more like what the US could be if it went downhill.
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0xCoinNewbie
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#15May 26, 2017, 09:04 AM
Housing hits hard. Even a slight wage increase doesn’t help if rent prices keep climbing. Many with decent jobs feel trapped. It’s no wonder young people are disengaged.
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roguedefiFull Member
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#16May 26, 2017, 09:37 AM
If folks in developed countries feel this way, what hope do developing countries have? The UK, seen as advanced, is struggling like many in Africa and Asia.
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chr1sv3ctorFull Member
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#17May 27, 2017, 01:09 AM
Exactly. The frustration is real. It's not just low growth; it’s who benefits from any growth. Stalling productivity and rising debt shift the burden to younger people.
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alex21Full Member
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#18May 27, 2017, 03:12 AM
Social media pressures are huge too. Influencers flaunting wealth adds to the stress. Everyone feels they need to keep up.
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laseryesSenior Member
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#19May 27, 2017, 10:51 AM
The whole world feels stuck, not just the UK. Capitalism's flaws are glaring. Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer, it's like a closed club.
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mr_apeNewbie
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#20May 27, 2017, 11:54 AM
The proxy war with Russia has drained resources and deindustrialized Europe. This mess started around 2014. Brexit didn’t help either. The fallout is worldwide.
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