Electricity Costs for Bitcoin Miners in Kazakhstan

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m00n51Hero Member
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#1Sep 1, 2023, 12:02 PM
Kazakhstan is totally a hotspot for bitcoin mining, right? They've been racking up around 13% of the global hash rate lately. But in 2022, they hiked the electricity fee for miners from like $0.0023 to $0.01 per kWh. That generated a nice chunk of change about $7 million from miners, with $1.5 million in just the first quarter. On the bright side, if miners use renewable energy, they still get lower fees. But honestly, how practical is that for mining?
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pr0to88Member
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#2Sep 1, 2023, 05:52 PM
$0.01 per kWh is still pretty cheap, not sure why everyone's complaining. I checked the article, but couldn't find the actual cost per kWh, just the tax on it. So if the power cost was $0.0223 before and now it’s $0.03, big deal. Miners should just chill and be glad they only pay that much.
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#3Sep 2, 2023, 04:35 PM
Oh totally! Miners in Kazakhstan are still making bank, even after the tax hike. I mean, with their crypto-friendly policies, I expected them to keep thriving. If they feel taxed too much, they’ve got options with energy sources they could go green. Shouldn’t be crying about it.
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tom51Full Member
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#4Sep 2, 2023, 08:36 PM
Wait, how do you even know the current power prices there? Are you actually in Kazakhstan? I'm kinda jealous of that price. Some places here have insane electricity rates, making mining a no-go. And seriously, taxing miners? Why not tax everyone else using electricity too? Seems ridiculous.
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fork404Full Member
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#5Sep 2, 2023, 09:23 PM
Honestly, that tax still seems low compared to other countries. If they pulled in $7 million, I think they’re cool with it. Plus, they keep it cheaper for renewable energy users, so it might be a push for greener mining.
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#6Sep 3, 2023, 07:26 AM
$0.0023 was like, almost free electricity. Sure, it's now a hefty five times more, but still affordable. Miners just need to upgrade their old rigs, and they'll be fine.
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#7Sep 3, 2023, 11:47 AM
Yeah, even at $0.01, that’s not a big deal. Miners should feel lucky here, we pay around $0.2 per kWh. I mean, complaining about $0.01? That’s almost laughable.
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#8Sep 3, 2023, 05:32 PM
Nothing wrong with the price per kWh. I run ASICs in multiple countries, including Kazakhstan. In Karaganda, we pay around $0.0089 before taxes. All taxes included, that’s like $0.011. Seriously, that’s a killer deal for mining.
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#9Sep 3, 2023, 07:53 PM
Wow, with Kazakhstan holding 13% of the hash rate, it’s crazy to think they made over a billion in revenue while only giving the gov $7 million in taxes. No wonder they want to hike those taxes on miners more!
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#10Sep 4, 2023, 12:58 AM
But let's be real, miners haven’t seen massive rewards lately. Fees are high, and Bitcoin isn’t scaling like they need it to. Plus, those new laws about selling crypto earned? That could really shake things up for them.
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davekingFull Member
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#11Sep 4, 2023, 06:43 AM
So even with the $0.01 power charge, miners are cashing in big time. But now, Kazakhstan wants to require them to sell most of their crypto through registered exchanges? That might hurt some miners who prefer holding their coins.
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#12Sep 4, 2023, 08:17 AM
Yeah, but what about after tax? Miners might buy back BTC later or get it from abroad. Sure, there’ll be fees, but right now, that law isn’t even active. We’ll see.
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m00n51Hero Member
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#13Sep 4, 2023, 10:17 AM
Good point, but even if fees are low, an increase after collecting $7 million raises eyebrows. If they think it’s too cheap, they might just raise it again. Other countries pay more, but governments love to squeeze more cash.
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madstackNewbie
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#14Sep 4, 2023, 03:26 PM
Kazakhstan's got plenty of cheap electricity. Miners wouldn't be there if they weren’t making profits. If taxes go high, they can always relocate. It’s all about profit, man.
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atlas51Member
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#15Sep 4, 2023, 05:56 PM
Yeah, but we can't ignore the unregistered miners causing trouble. They are stressing the grid, and many of them have connections to officials, making it tough on the legit miners.
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mr_bitNewbie
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#16Sep 4, 2023, 07:38 PM
Can you back that up with some sources? Most articles I see say the government is trying to bring more miners in and regulate them, not scare them away. But I’ve seen conflicting reports about miners leaving.
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#17Sep 4, 2023, 09:12 PM
Sure, but I still think it’s pretty clear the power supply can’t handle intensive mining forever. Prices might go up as they try to manage demand.
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CryptoBitNewbie
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#18Sep 5, 2023, 10:31 AM
Kazakhstan's electricity is cheap, but this new fee feels like another cash grab by corrupt politicians. Miners might still profit, but this could mess with the mining scene and Bitcoin prices.
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#19Sep 5, 2023, 01:51 PM
Absolutely, if miners weren’t profitable, they’d pack up and move. The current taxes are part of doing business, so they either pay or go somewhere else.
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#20Sep 7, 2023, 08:34 PM
Can you share some sources for this story?  Some articles that I found online tend to describe the government cautiously trying to make sure more miners are registered instead of pushing them away, although they don't really have the pull to keep the miners stay in their country. Some of these stories are quite old though, such as this one[1] or this one[2]. I found one article that describes how miners are fleeing from Kazakhstan but the release date is quite conflicting with one of the articles I shared below[3]. At the very least it is clear that their energy supply can't sustain mining activities and public needs in general, with faults attributed to dated technology, corruption, etc. [1] https://fortune.com/2021/11/24/kazakhstan-bitcoin-crypto-mining-energy-power-crisis-china-xive-shuts-down/ [2] https://cointelegraph.com/news/kazakhstan-among-top-3-bitcoin-mining-destinations-after-us-and-china [3] https://restofworld.org/2022/crypto-miners-fleeing-kazakhstan/
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