Discussion on BIP 110: Potential Soft Fork Concerns

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gang2015Member
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#1Jan 30, 2023, 12:01 PM
Saw @Satofan44 mention this BIP earlier. Wanted to create a new thread so we don't clutter the other one.
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dave.forkMember
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#2Jan 30, 2023, 05:18 PM
This proposal is wild... could break so many scripts! Information theory says you can't really stop "spam". It's not gonna work.
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0xNodeMember
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#3Jan 30, 2023, 09:28 PM
I think it’s a bad idea. This proposal is just a way for Luke-jr to push his agenda. If we accept this, what’s next? More regulations, maybe even confiscation? No thanks.
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0xDefiFull Member
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#4Jan 30, 2023, 10:36 PM
I get wanting to reduce bloat but this crosses a line. If it risks UTXOs or limits block space usage, that's not optimization, that's control.
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alexsatNewbie
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#5Jan 31, 2023, 03:44 AM
Gotta give credit for trying to address the fake public key issue. But this seems like a band-aid solution. It's not really gonna stop the spamming.
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gang2015Member
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#6Jan 31, 2023, 06:34 AM
Just realized something about the BIP. Does it mean reversing years of transactions? And why lower the OP_RETURN limit? Sounds fishy.
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kevin420Member
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#7Feb 1, 2023, 02:24 PM
BIP-110 would mean a soft fork, right? The main point seems to be keeping the blockchain clean from illegal content.
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alex.byteLegendary
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#8Feb 1, 2023, 07:35 PM
Yeah but soft forks only work if the majority of hash power supports them. Otherwise, you end up with a minority chain.
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wallet_vaultFull Member
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#9Feb 3, 2023, 08:39 AM
You won't have any BCashJr coins if your security is weak. Just saying... it's been tried before, people get rekt.
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alexsatNewbie
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#10Feb 3, 2023, 10:29 AM
True, but this proposal isn’t just about filtering. It will make data storage more expensive without actually solving the issues.
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wallet_vaultFull Member
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#11Feb 3, 2023, 11:42 AM
Glad to see it's still locked on GitHub for now. Probably for the best. Let those who want it fork off and leave the rest of us alone.
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mr_apeNewbie
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#12Feb 3, 2023, 12:36 PM
This proposal is weird... it doesn't fix anything. Just makes valid outputs unspendable. That could lock a ton of coins.
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alexsatNewbie
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#13Feb 3, 2023, 02:33 PM
I see your point but isn’t the wording about new scriptPubKeys? Old outputs should be safe, right?
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#14Feb 3, 2023, 08:43 PM
Still not good enough. People have presigned transactions that could get caught up in this mess. It's risky.
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ColdGangMember
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#15Feb 4, 2023, 09:50 AM
I think you're spot on about hash rate consensus. It shows how Bitcoin’s governance is all about social agreement, not just miners.
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0xLynxMember
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#16Feb 4, 2023, 12:14 PM
This BIP just creates bigger issues instead of solving the original problems. Super ironic.
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dave.forkMember
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#17Feb 4, 2023, 12:43 PM
Back in 2018, some researchers suggested better ways to handle arbitrary data in transactions. They proposed tools that could help, not just bans.
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dave.forkMember
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#18Feb 4, 2023, 05:44 PM
Not sure what research you've seen, but I think arbitrary data can be hidden in regular transactions without easy detection.
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gang2015Member
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#19Feb 4, 2023, 09:34 PM
Ultimately, the economic majority decides what succeeds. Miners might mine different forks, but they can't ignore economic reality.
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0xNodeMember
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#20Feb 5, 2023, 12:49 AM
This proposal? Probably won't be applied in practice. It just complicates things for custodial services and could backfire.
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