BIP-39 Recovery Techniques and Insights

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fullnodeSenior Member
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#1Jan 25, 2026, 06:28 PM
Just wrapped up some heavy lifting on cracking BIP-39 phrases, specifically how to recover more than 4 missing words. It’s something all those wallet recovery companies shy away from because it costs a ton.
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#2Jan 25, 2026, 10:10 PM
I'll get into the details here, share proofs of concept, and outline some cool tech insights. My code utilizes OpenCL for GPU speed-ups and Python for overall management.
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#3Jan 26, 2026, 12:49 AM
So, some brute-force tools like Hashcat are using wNAF-4 bits for calculating public keys on the secp256k1 curve, which is a big deal in Bitcoin.
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#4Jan 26, 2026, 07:02 AM
Definitely the PBKDF2-HMAC-SHA512 is the choke point in breaking BIP-39. It limits even high-end GPUs to about 3-4 million attempts per second. But we’ve crafted a super parallel kernel to speed things up.
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#5Jan 26, 2026, 07:37 AM
Hold on, before I get too caught up in this… how effective are your methods? Like, how long would it take to recover, say, 5 or 6 missing words from a 12-word phrase?
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#6Jan 26, 2026, 01:02 PM
Good question. How can we run your code on our own rigs for BIP-39 recovery?
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falcon2019Full Member
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#7Jan 26, 2026, 06:34 PM
I think we should clarify that this tool is meant for cracking a limited number of missing words from mnemonics. Checked out the GitHub but not sure if everything there is ready for public use.
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#8Jan 27, 2026, 12:41 AM
For those looking to try this at home, I’ve been gathering different versions during my research. More optimizations pop up regularly.
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j0hn.ga5Newbie
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#9Jan 27, 2026, 04:27 AM
Right now, you’ll only get about 1.2 million seeds per second on average hardware, but the results for recovering up to 5 missing words look really promising.
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0xChadNewbie
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#10Jan 27, 2026, 09:56 AM
What’s up with your mention of speed? You said billions per second, but isn't that misleading? Because using Kangaroo also hits that range.
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#11Jan 27, 2026, 12:01 PM
Exactly! Your project is working with random points on the curve, which is different from Kangaroo. But it is a bit slower due to needing more calculations.
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j0hn.ga5Newbie
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#12Jan 27, 2026, 03:58 PM
Just a quick tip for anyone running this on Windows: WDDM and TDR can mess things up. If possible, run it where the driver isn’t hovering over everything.
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falcon2019Full Member
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#13Jan 27, 2026, 07:44 PM
Also, should we include Electrum 2FA versions in the discussions? It could help if users at least remember one address for checking!
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#14Jan 28, 2026, 02:29 AM
I’ve been playing around with PBKDF optimizations too. Found a neat trick with reusing values in the SHA-512 processing that really improves things.
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#15Jan 29, 2026, 07:28 PM
Nice! That kind of optimization can make a real difference. 2.3 million seeds/sec on a powerful GPU is impressive, but for full recovery, it still takes ages.
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#16Jan 31, 2026, 09:38 AM
Does this help with recovering master keys if we know the wallet hash? Brute-forcing passwords is the main way to go.
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#17Jan 31, 2026, 10:29 AM
In testing, you'll see how many iterations are needed for a smoother operation. We’re seeing crack times of months for 5 missing words, but for 6 you’ll need some clues.
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