Can the Wealthy Class Face Reality Without Immigration?

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SilentOrbitSenior Member
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#1Nov 24, 2021, 03:25 PM
So, basically, the immigration issue we see today is mostly driven by economic reasons. People are fleeing prosecution, seeking jobs in the US where companies are ready to hire them. It’s kinda a cycle, right?
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LuckyDeg3nFull Member
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#2Nov 24, 2021, 08:33 PM
Exactly. Trump’s big pitch was that stopping immigration means better jobs and less crime. But what if crime rates don't actually fall? That gap in the labor market has to be filled somehow, right?
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kevin_bridgeFull Member
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#3Nov 24, 2021, 08:39 PM
Honestly, many immigrants seeking work aren't really responsible for economic troubles. It's kinda wild how people shout "they're taking our jobs" when often, they're just not qualified for those jobs to begin with. It's like the government's pushing their own agenda.
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its_matrixSenior Member
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#4Nov 24, 2021, 11:48 PM
Trump's loud and bold now, but let’s face it, he’ll fade like all the others. Corporations stick around long after politicians leave. But when people sneak in, it’s a loss for US citizens since they should be tracked properly.
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#5Nov 25, 2021, 05:52 AM
I find myself leaning right more these days but I keep that low-key. I mean, the whole wall thing and tariffs? Not sure if that’s the best for the economy. Immigrants built this country, you know?
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0xHashMember
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#6Nov 25, 2021, 07:14 AM
The rich don’t really ‘need’ immigration, they can relocate operations wherever they want. Small businesses, though, are the ones that really rely on immigrant workers. It’s just a different ballgame.
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alt_forkMember
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#7Nov 27, 2021, 12:32 AM
For real, I think most protests are against illegal immigration. If it’s legal, I’m all for it. But sneaking in and causing issues? No thanks. Those illegal immigrants definitely hurt wage levels too.
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#8Nov 27, 2021, 02:01 AM
Irony check: many illegal immigrants often take low-paying jobs. The argument that they steal jobs from locals isn’t really solid. They’re usually filling the roles no one else wants.
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kevin_bridgeFull Member
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#9Nov 27, 2021, 02:19 AM
But you can’t generalize. Did you know about 31% of illegal immigrants actually have college degrees? It’s not just unqualified folks. Let’s not ignore that.
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SwiftNovaNewbie
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#10Nov 27, 2021, 05:06 AM
Hold on, you're saying that all illegal immigrants are qualified? Nah, that’s a stretch. Most of them end up in low-skill jobs, and that’s the truth.
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#11Nov 27, 2021, 08:32 AM
But have you seen the research? Many illegal immigrants contribute significantly to society and the economy. Ignoring that is just plain ignorant.
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#12Nov 27, 2021, 11:54 AM
Seriously, it’s wild how many people just say the rich don’t want immigrants because they don’t want them competing. But those migrants actually fill essential roles, ya know?
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kevin_bridgeFull Member
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#13Nov 27, 2021, 12:21 PM
Trump’s stance is more about illegals than immigration itself. As long as you’re a skilled worker, you'll find a spot in the US labor market.
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chain365Legendary
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#14Nov 28, 2021, 09:16 PM
There are loopholes in immigration laws, though. Friends and family get hired, but it can mess things up. Just because it looks legal doesn’t mean it's good.
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#15Nov 29, 2021, 02:53 AM
Sure, but many degrees out there aren’t worth much. Just because someone has a degree doesn’t mean they’re a good fit for the job. The best workers come in through legal channels.
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0xHodlerMember
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#16Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 AM
Dude, that’s a lot of assumptions. You make it sound like having a degree doesn’t matter. That’s just not true or fair.
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#17Nov 30, 2021, 01:33 PM
Entering illegally? Yeah, that’s a problem. But let’s not forget, these workers are vital to the economy. Without them, some businesses might just crumble.
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#18Nov 30, 2021, 03:48 PM
Trump's policies have also made it harder for people to migrate legally. It’s not just about stopping illegal immigration; it affects legal pathways too.
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la5eryesNewbie
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#19Nov 30, 2021, 07:05 PM
Your point on taxes isn’t quite right. Republicans push for lower taxes but mix up legal and illegal immigrants. It’s a mess.
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CalmApeMember
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#20Nov 30, 2021, 08:53 PM
But look, the H-2A visa program exists for a reason. We can’t just ignore that many seasonal workers come in legally. It’s all part of the system.
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