Just saw the news... Two brothers nabbed for swiping $25 million from Ethereum. Crazy, right? Apparently, they manipulated the blockchain in just 12 seconds. First of its kind for sure.
Brothers Arrested for $25M Ethereum Heist: What Happened?
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If they could steal that much in 12 seconds, what does it say about Ethereum's security? Honestly, that’s wild. I hope devs are fixing those loopholes ASAP. This should be titled 'Gone in 12 seconds'.
Seriously? Just because they went to fancy schools doesn’t mean they’re smart. Anyone with cash can fake a diploma. Stealing and then trying to cover their tracks is just dumb. Locking them up sounds like a good plan.
I still can’t wrap my head around how they executed this. Was it Miner-Extractable Value (MEV) related? Many have exploited MEV before.
mike.degenMember
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#5May 9, 2023, 02:51 AM
So if this is post-PoW, then isn’t it on Ethereum devs to tighten security after they switched to PoS? Under PoW, maybe they had less to lose?
Ethereum's been PoS for a while now. The crux of MEV is about miners changing transaction order for profit. It’s a loophole, sure, but I don’t fully get how the hackers pulled it off.
satoshi_apeNewbie
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#7May 11, 2023, 12:55 PM
You rarely see law enforcement crack down on stuff like this. Whoever caught these guys deserves a medal. Tackling fraud in crypto helps everyone.
True, but I'm curious about their technique. They pulled this off so quickly, and the government was on them in no time. Maybe they had insiders that tipped them off?
So, if it links back to MEV, how's it a crime? Plenty of mining pools have been doing similar things.
wallet_oracleMember
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#10May 13, 2023, 06:04 PM
From what I read, the DOJ charged them not just for theft, but also for money laundering. They messed with Ethereum's transaction validation processes to pull off the heist.
Anyone know of a video that breaks this down? I’m diving into cybersecurity, and understanding this could really boost my learning. Pulling it off in 12 seconds is mind-blowing.
A lot of smart folks are making bank finding vulnerabilities. These brothers may have been clever with code, but not so great at staying hidden from the law.
Yeah, doing it with the new protocol can be tricky, but validators can collab with relays. The blockchain’s still open enough for this kind of tactic.
Is there a simple way to get this? Did they hijack the blockchain to swipe fees? I’m a bit lost.
Definitely check out some resources on MEV. They’re not stealing per se, but manipulating transactions. It’s more like arbitrage in DeFi.
Oh, I see what you mean now. They used their skills for this manipulative scheme? They’d be perfect for a role in Ethereum instead of prison.
Not exactly stealing. Validators control block formation now and can profit from MEV too. If they spot a chance, they can execute their transaction first, leaving others in the dust.
Agreed, that’s not a crime per se. It’s just how the system works currently. People in relays are making tons from MEV and aren’t facing charges.
It’s tough seeing people with such talent go down this road. But we need to remember, they’re innocent until proven guilty. The justice system needs to do its thing.
ben.matrixNewbie
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#20May 16, 2023, 12:27 PM
Can you elaborate on how they deceived traders? Smart contracts don’t always fulfill, and most DeFi traders are aware of that. MEV is a loophole that needs attention.