Avalon 851 Arrival Discussion

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pr0to88Member
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#1Jan 22, 2025, 01:26 PM
Just got a heads up from DHL. The Avalon 851 will be here on Tuesday the 7th. Gonna do a review and a YouTube video for it.
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pr0to88Member
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#2Jan 22, 2025, 05:21 PM
What’s the hype about this one?
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#3Jan 22, 2025, 08:48 PM
Can't wait for it to land!
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eric_ravenSenior Member
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#4Jan 22, 2025, 11:53 PM
I really hope Canaan did something about the rising power usage in higher temps...
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pixel2009Member
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#5Jan 25, 2025, 07:22 AM
They should address that. I have all the tests from the 841, and once temps hit 80F, power can go up by over 100 watts, all the way to 97F. Did a max temp test at 97F.
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pr0to88Member
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#6Jan 25, 2025, 07:37 AM
That’s not just a Canaan problem. The S9s also burn more power when it gets hot. Plus, Bitmain and Sorcerer PSUs lose efficiency too.
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planktonHero Member
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#7Jan 25, 2025, 11:55 AM
Yeah, my APW3+ did poorly over 85F. Corsair 1500 Titanium was the best among six PSUs tested, but still had heat issues.
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pr0to88Member
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#8Jan 25, 2025, 01:19 PM
So true! In the 100-112F Texas days, my two S9s and one S9i were pulling almost 4700 watts total at 109F. At night it dropped to around 4500. All were APW3++.
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mikedefiMember
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#9Jan 25, 2025, 07:07 PM
Wow, my Whatsminer M3s would use up to 2400 watts each in those temps!
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0xChadNewbie
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#10Jan 25, 2025, 11:01 PM
Is this Avalon 851 a 7nm miner or just a quick upgrade from the 841? Haven't seen any official word on it.
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planktonHero Member
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#11Jan 26, 2025, 12:48 AM
From what I know, all Avalons share the same chip, so 851 has the 16nm chips just like the 821 and 841.
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#12Jan 26, 2025, 01:31 AM
What are the specs, anyway? Holding out for a 7nm unless the 851 is under $1k. Seeing the repeat of the 821 all over again...first batch buyers got burned.
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#13Jan 26, 2025, 04:17 AM
Yeah, I’m waiting too. The 821 isn't bad, but not worth it unless 7nm is priced right.
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pr0to88Member
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#14Jan 26, 2025, 06:34 AM
Looks like the 851 is at 14.5 TH with 1350 watts, but probably more like 1550 watts. Other miners are dropping soon too.
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0xBossFull Member
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#15Jan 26, 2025, 10:37 AM
Excited to hear more! Can't wait for your review!
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pr0to88Member
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#16Jan 26, 2025, 03:10 PM
If I remember right, this one has an integrated PSU, kinda like Innosilicon.
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pixel2009Member
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#17Jan 26, 2025, 06:45 PM
Edit: Nope, looks just like the 841 and can hit around 14.8 TH but at a higher wattage.
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gas2018Member
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#18Jan 26, 2025, 11:53 PM
Yeah, those Avalons are super sensitive compared to S9s. Did tests with rising temps and PSUs, they barely affect efficiency.
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pr0to88Member
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#19Jan 29, 2025, 08:01 AM
True, Canaan Sorcerer and Bitmain PSUs show little difference in efficiency. APW3++ fails at high temps, while APW7 handles heat better.
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j0hn_atl4sSenior Member
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#20Jan 29, 2025, 08:56 AM
It’s all about the miner and how it interacts with the PSU. Load affects efficiency too. Setups on AC vents did better.
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