Are Shill Bids a Real Threat to the Community?

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im_bitNewbie
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#1Jul 9, 2021, 07:09 PM
Shill bidding is a huge no-no on most platforms. It’s when sellers or their buddies fake bids just to jack up the price during an auction. Totally skews the whole bidding process and messes it up for legit players. Some places even label it as fraud, which can lead to serious trouble for the perpetrators.
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LuckyDeg3nFull Member
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#2Jul 9, 2021, 09:19 PM
Yeah, that's clearly unethical and should not fly at all. But the real question is, how do we spot this kind of activity? Creating alternate accounts isn’t banned here, so if we accuse the wrong person, it might chase off actual bidders.
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im_bitNewbie
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#3Jul 11, 2021, 05:18 PM
You're spot on, thanks for your input. This whole shill bidding thing is definitely an issue we’ve got to deal with. It can easily thrive in this space and I agree it’s tough to tackle. Maybe there’s no clear solution. How do we move forward from here? Any ideas on identifying this stuff?
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LuckyDeg3nFull Member
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#4Jul 12, 2021, 02:30 PM
Honestly, I haven't come up with much yet. But I was thinking maybe we should implement some stricter auction rules like they do in other places. Think along the lines of: - Use independent escrow folks - Charge entry fees - Try blind auctions if at all possible Public auctions without these safeguards are just asking for trouble.
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0xCoinNewbie
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#5Jul 12, 2021, 02:40 PM
I see shill bidding as more than just prices; it's about reputations too. Once folks suspect fake bids, every auction loses credibility. Even if it’s not written down, fair play should be the norm around here. Anything less deserves bad feedback for sure.
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im_bitNewbie
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#6Jul 12, 2021, 08:05 PM
Hey, appreciate the response! Your suggestions are definitely some of the best I've heard for preventing this. Not sure if they’re foolproof, but entry fees seem to be a solid option. It’s a cost upfront, and if we require bidders to send that fee to a public address, we can validate entries on the blockchain.
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LuckyDeg3nFull Member
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#7Jul 13, 2021, 01:01 AM
There are quite a few ways to handle this. The main idea is keeping bids private until the auction wraps up. Here’s how it could work: 1. The host starts the auction thread. 2. Each bidder sends proof of their entry privately or publishes it securely. 3. At auction end, the host reveals all bids and entry proofs. Keeping bidders and their amounts confidential makes it tough for shillers to play their games.
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im_bitNewbie
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#8Jul 13, 2021, 05:52 AM
You nailed it! Great breakdown, thanks a ton.
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#9Jul 13, 2021, 06:39 AM
Shill bidding has no place here. It wrecks trust and inflates prices artificially. Real bidders want fairness, not these scammy vibes. We really need to keep things clean so the market can thrive. Illegal activity should definitely be called out.
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im_bitNewbie
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#10Jul 13, 2021, 10:38 AM
Well said, I agree completely. Sad but true; this is a deep-rooted problem that hasn’t been tackled properly yet. Rat03gopoh’s blind auction idea sounds promising, but transparency post-auction is key. What if we created an account solely for sharing bid details via private messages? That could help too.
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sigma_ninjaFull Member
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#11Jul 13, 2021, 11:15 AM
I’ve actually seen this too many times. Was part of a project where they faked trading to juice up their volumes. They’re gone now but it basically was all smoke and mirrors. Shill bidders are just another layer ruining the market for everyone.
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mr_bearNewbie
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#12Jul 15, 2021, 12:25 AM
Shill bidding? Definitely not okay here. It undermines trust and inflates prices unfairly. Real bidders deserve legitimate chances, not these scammy tricks. It’s key to keep our space clean.
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nick.novaFull Member
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#13Jul 16, 2021, 11:28 PM
Identifying shill bidding is like spotting alt accounts. Look for accounts that act suspiciously and only post in auctions. If several accounts have similar traits or the timing's odd, that might be a clue that shilling's happening.
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wallet21Senior Member
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#14Jul 17, 2021, 01:53 AM
Has this actually happened here? Because shill bidding is wrong. We need to expose it. Usually, you can see when the same few accounts keep bumping up prices but never actually win bids. If you suspect an auction's fake, call it out for everyone to see.
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ninja88Member
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#15Jul 17, 2021, 05:07 AM
No scenario where shill bidding is okay. Saying it’s harmless is just denial. It generates fake demand and usually, it’s the new users that get burned. If we want fair prices, we can’t let this slide.
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nick.orbitFull Member
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#16Jul 17, 2021, 08:16 AM
In real life, regulations might start clamping down on shill bidding, but in our online space, it’s all about having sharp eyes. Especially for projects that seem too promising. In the real world, a tool like Etherscan unveils bidder ties to creators, but I wonder if we have similar tools here.
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im_bitNewbie
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#17Jul 18, 2021, 09:26 AM
Just want to push this forward with a vote 🗳️ I’m certain shill bidding is a problem. There’s no protection against it currently, and even if you have proof, it's tough to expose. Patterns suggest shill activity, but without hard evidence, it’s all just guesses. It’s high time we addressed this issue seriously.
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