59 BTC Stolen from Hot Wallet by ATM Manufacturer?

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#1Jun 26, 2021, 10:04 PM
Hey everyone! I could really use some help here. I run a few small stores selling phones and electronics, and I also exchange cash for Bitcoin using a POS system. A month ago, a potential buyer wanted to purchase my stores. After signing an LOI and making a deposit, he started asking for a ton of documents including bank statements and details about my hot wallet. Then he dropped a bombshell...
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serHero Member
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#2Jun 27, 2021, 02:56 AM
He claims that my hot wallet lost nearly 60 BTC over 1721 transactions from 2016 to 2020, and he suspects the ATM manufacturer is behind it. I was clueless about this until now.
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im_cobraFull Member
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#3Jun 28, 2021, 07:29 PM
I get it that back in 2016 BTC was worth way less than today, but by the end of 2017 it shot up to like 20k. How did you not realize you were missing that much BTC over four years? If someone stole that much from me, I’d be filing a lawsuit for sure.
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serHero Member
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#4Jun 29, 2021, 12:06 AM
Right? It's wild that 1721 transactions happened without you catching on. A scammer would usually do it in one go, not drag it out like this. Plus, how did you only figure this out after five years?
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#5Jun 29, 2021, 04:10 AM
Exactly, people are gonna want to know how you missed all those transactions. They didn't steal 3 million outright, but still, that's a massive amount of money. Something doesn’t add up.
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#6Jul 1, 2021, 08:09 AM
In 2016 Bitcoin was between $400 and $1000. If you had a busy ATM, maybe you wouldn’t notice losing a bit here and there, but 59 BTC? It raises questions about your bookkeeping practices.
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bull2013Full Member
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#7Jul 2, 2021, 01:00 AM
Can you share the name of this ATM manufacturer? I heard a similar story from someone in Europe where an employee essentially robbed him using a custodial wallet. The thief was even reported dead afterward.
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sam_rocketSenior Member
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#8Jul 2, 2021, 02:15 AM
Great point! If you have strong evidence against the manufacturer, definitely talk to a lawyer. But don’t get your hopes too high on recovering anything.
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hypertokenHero Member
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#9Jul 3, 2021, 11:10 PM
It’s hard to believe you could lose 59 BTC over five years and not notice it. Businesses usually keep track of their finances closely. Did you even run any audits?
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#10Jul 6, 2021, 09:26 AM
I get that it’s theft, but how do you prove it after all this time? You might want to consult with a legal expert who knows this stuff.
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wallet_vaultFull Member
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#11Jul 6, 2021, 08:37 PM
Totally sketchy situation. If these transactions don’t add up, you need to seek legal advice and figure out your next steps.
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0xFalconMember
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#12Jul 7, 2021, 02:24 AM
You should check with your team, especially those handling ATM audits. How did no one inform you about missing funds for so long?
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#13Jul 7, 2021, 07:13 AM
Yeah, imagine if the ATM operator was shortchanging you on the profits. They could easily manipulate the numbers and you wouldn’t even know.
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wallet_vaultFull Member
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#14Jul 7, 2021, 08:05 AM
This whole scenario is pretty unbelievable. If you're losing that much BTC, I can't help but wonder about your overall revenue. You should definitely sue these guys.
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#15Jul 7, 2021, 08:37 AM
Even if we assume an average price of $10k between 2016-2020, that’s still a lot of BTC gone missing. If that amount is just a fraction of your revenue, it’s hard to believe you wouldn’t notice.
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