Will miners still have incentives after 2140?

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alpha23Member
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#1Feb 20, 2017, 01:56 PM
Some folks are pondering what happens after 2140 when no new BTC will be minted. If miners can’t rely on block rewards, what’s the motivation to keep mining? Opinions are all over the place.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#2Feb 22, 2017, 01:28 PM
I’m thinking transaction fees might just cover it. But then again, if BTC prices skyrocket, will there be enough transactions to keep miners interested?
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lonealphaNewbie
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#3Feb 22, 2017, 02:40 PM
Honestly, just go play around on testnet3. You’ll see the dynamics there. If it works there, why not on the mainnet?
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gang2015Member
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#4Feb 22, 2017, 08:24 PM
Yeah, but testnet is different. The mainnet has way more at stake. The 20-minute block time is a big difference too.
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alexsatNewbie
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#5Feb 22, 2017, 10:34 PM
Isn’t it pretty much the same deal? Miners will just adjust to whatever fees are available. But if nobody’s transacting, then what?
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mr_apeNewbie
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#6Feb 22, 2017, 11:45 PM
Mining difficulty will adjust eventually if miners can’t make profits. But we can’t just assume fees will be enough.
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alpha23Member
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#7Feb 23, 2017, 03:59 AM
If fees don’t cut it, it’s gonna be a mess. But I think Bitcoin will adapt somehow. Maybe ordinals will just move to a different protocol.
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#8Feb 23, 2017, 08:25 AM
Fees are key, but you can’t overlook the bigger picture. A century from now, who knows if Bitcoin will even exist?
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0xLaserFull Member
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#9Feb 23, 2017, 12:10 PM
I disagree. The fee structure is vital. Without it, miners don’t have any reason to keep processing transactions. Plus, if cryptography gets outdated, that’s a whole different problem.
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#10Feb 23, 2017, 03:09 PM
True, but they could always use second layers. If Bitcoin still has unique value, it’ll survive even with high fees.
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dave.forkMember
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#11Feb 23, 2017, 05:57 PM
We’re worrying about 2140, but what about sooner? The next couple of halvings might be a real issue for security.
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alexsatNewbie
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#12Feb 23, 2017, 10:15 PM
Exactly! The block reward will get tiny, and if fees can’t support miners, we’re in trouble.
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mr_apeNewbie
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#13Feb 24, 2017, 08:07 AM
So, how do we fix this? Tail emissions or switch to PoS, but that brings its own set of issues.
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#14Feb 24, 2017, 01:45 PM
What if it becomes an altcoin? People burning overprinted coins could push prices up, making it a viable option.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#15Feb 24, 2017, 06:31 PM
Yeah, but that’s speculative. Bitcoin has a legacy, and if it changes too much, will it even be Bitcoin anymore?
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#16Feb 24, 2017, 11:26 PM
There are always alternatives. Just look at history. Bitcoin might not be the only game in town in 100 years.
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dave.forkMember
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#17Feb 25, 2017, 03:31 AM
But then again, miners just need to be incentivized to keep blocks flowing. If they have enough fees, it could work.
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#18Feb 25, 2017, 06:26 AM
Mining hardware does not determine confirmation needs. It’s about the network design and how many confirmations are needed.
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dave.forkMember
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#19Feb 25, 2017, 07:33 AM
If transactions drop off, so will mining. In that case, ordinals might just find a new home elsewhere.
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#20Feb 25, 2017, 01:02 PM
The real question is: what’s the threshold between secure and insecure? Hashrate isn’t everything.
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