What’s the Future of Bitcoin Testnet 3?

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yield2016Full Member
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#1Jun 6, 2018, 08:59 PM
So, we got Bitcoin testnet 3 and 4 running. When's testnet 3 gonna kick the bucket? I think it might happen when core updates only support version 4, but what about those using version 3 for its market? Some folks ain't gonna let it go.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#2Jun 8, 2018, 04:23 PM
I mean, it could survive if enough people keep using it. But imagine if Bitcoin Core drops support for it. Then all the bug fixes? Gone. It might just sit there, stagnant. If anyone wants to take it on as an altcoin, maybe it has a shot.
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m00n51Hero Member
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#3Jun 8, 2018, 07:31 PM
Nah, testnet 3's been around forever. 13 years! I doubt it just dies. Plus, they’d have to support both 3 and 4 until the community shifts. It's too valuable to just ditch.
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diamondhandsHero Member
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#4Jun 8, 2018, 09:27 PM
Look, removing support for testnet 3 is on the table. Developers are planning for it. If someone wants to fork it, fine! But it's gonna be cut from Bitcoin Core eventually.
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seed_2013Senior Member
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#5Jun 9, 2018, 07:43 AM
Has anyone actually reset testnet before? Like, if things go haywire with 3 or 4, are we gonna see a testnet 5? Seems like a possibility.
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#6Jun 9, 2018, 01:25 PM
I don’t think there’s an official plan for version 4 yet. It’ll probably coexist for a bit. But eventually, everyone’s gonna shift to 4. People just won’t see the point in sticking with 3.
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mr_apeNewbie
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#7Jun 9, 2018, 03:42 PM
Yeah, but the mining costs on testnet 3 are insane now. Plus, with blocks being mined every second, it’s getting out of hand. I mean, isn’t it basically just a mini version of mainnet now?
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0xNodeMember
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#8Jun 9, 2018, 06:04 PM
You can’t really kill a network completely, but you can make it less attractive. There’ll always be a few old-schoolers who stick to their guns and keep running old nodes.
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gang2015Member
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#9Jun 9, 2018, 10:10 PM
But the thing is, Bitcoin Core isn’t the only one supporting testnet 3. Users could just keep using older versions if they want.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#10Jun 11, 2018, 10:44 AM
True, but open source means developers can choose what to support. If they don’t get paid to keep testnet 3 alive, why would they?
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0xNodeMember
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#11Jun 11, 2018, 01:40 PM
Look, the new features like timewarp protection are only for testnet 4. If testnet 3 gets left behind, it’s gonna fall off. You can modify the code, but that’s like forking it.
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diamondhandsHero Member
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#12Jun 11, 2018, 04:00 PM
Honestly, at this point, both testnets are pretty similar. If someone revives testnet 3, cool, but it feels like it’s just gonna fade away.
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yield2016Full Member
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#13Jun 13, 2018, 05:35 PM
We’ve seen enough issues with testnet 4 already to warrant big changes. The differences are noticeable enough to split them.
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#14Jun 14, 2018, 11:49 PM
Great point. Testnet 4 has been activated for UASF and new rules. Plus, I’ve already seen different chains emerging just from minor tweaks.
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mr_apeNewbie
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#15Jun 15, 2018, 05:58 AM
Thanks for the insights, everyone. Just to recap: testnet 3 is on the decline. Developers are moving on, and if users want to keep it running, it'll be on them to stick with older software.
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#16Jun 15, 2018, 08:11 AM
Yeah, and it’s a shame. People are giving testnet coins some weird value. They’re not supposed to be valuable, that ruins the whole testing vibe.
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0xNodeMember
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#17Jun 16, 2018, 03:55 PM
I think it’s just supply and demand. As faucets dry up and mining gets tougher, people start assigning value to tBTC. It’s a vicious cycle.
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0xLaserFull Member
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#18Jun 16, 2018, 10:15 PM
When most developers jump ship to Signet, that’ll be the end. Can’t really blame them if testnet 3 is unreliable.
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jakecobraFull Member
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#19Jun 17, 2018, 02:44 AM
I get that, but there are still a lot of tools out there that only support mainnet and testnet. So it’s a slow transition.
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#20Jun 18, 2018, 12:04 AM
Right, and that whole griefing attack thing is a mess. You can pre-mine blocks ahead of time, which messes with the whole thing.
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