What Happens If a Member of My MultiSig Setup Becomes Untrustworthy?

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#1Dec 11, 2019, 02:38 AM
so I’ve been thinking about multisig wallets lately. Let’s say I got a setup with 3 to 5 people... what if one disappears, or worse, turns out to be shady? how can we swap them out without losing our funds?
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#2Dec 11, 2019, 08:06 AM
you can’t just boot someone out. you’d need to create a whole new multisig wallet and transfer everything over. It is a 3-of-5 setup, so if one is acting up, you still got four others to back you up. but yeah, moving everything can feel like a hassle.
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#3Dec 11, 2019, 11:00 AM
totally! if that untrustworthy person doesn’t co-sign a transaction, we’re stuck... how do people deal with this in real life? like, any backup plans? legal stuff? I'm curious if anyone's faced this mess.
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#4Dec 11, 2019, 02:55 PM
there are various multisig types. some require different numbers of cosigners. a 3-of-5 is solid, but a 2-of-5 might be more flexible fewer headaches if something goes wrong.
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0xLynxMember
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#5Dec 11, 2019, 08:46 PM
a lot of current multisig wallets don’t let you add or remove cosigners easily. but I’ve heard about schnorr signatures and stuff. certain projects are working on making that easier in the future. might be worth looking into.
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#6Dec 11, 2019, 11:09 PM
the security system of multisig wallets is all about trust among co-signers. before starting, there should be clear communication because if one person goes rogue, things can get complicated fast.
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0x4lphaFull Member
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#7Dec 13, 2019, 06:35 PM
@Zaguru nailed it. If you all agree, just set up a new multisig and move the funds. Keep it simple, right?
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#8Dec 16, 2019, 01:04 AM
I think it’d be better to have something like full consensus, or 3-of-3... but like, if one person won’t budge later, can I still find a way to kick them out?
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#9Dec 16, 2019, 04:42 AM
if it’s 3-of-3, you’re kinda stuck if someone dies or won’t cooperate. you need everyone to sign. better to use an m-of-n setup to avoid that.
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CalmMinerFull Member
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#10Dec 16, 2019, 08:44 AM
you can’t recover an n-of-n wallet without all cosigners. that’s the downside of that setup. m-of-n is way less risky.
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#11Dec 16, 2019, 12:56 PM
wow, I didn’t realize it was that rigid. definitely learning something new today. will stick to m-of-n setups.
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m1kes4tFull Member
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#12Dec 16, 2019, 01:29 PM
if you want a safety net with three users, consider a 3-6 system. if one passes, two can still sign and you're not left in a bind.
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wallet21Senior Member
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#13Dec 19, 2019, 12:22 AM
it’s not terrible; it’s just how n-of-n works. you must keep all the keys safe, or you’re locked out like a solo wallet.
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gang2015Member
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#14Dec 19, 2019, 04:39 AM
if everyone involved knows what they’re doing, you could use Taproot addresses with custom rules. like maybe a mix of 3-of-5 or 2-of-5 setups.
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#15Dec 19, 2019, 05:45 AM
never thought about that! once I messed around with electrum and it only allowed two signers. thought that was a universal rule for multisig.
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#16Dec 19, 2019, 08:22 AM
a solid tip: have cosigners who don’t know each other. no collusion that way, making your wallet much safer.
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