Spain Tightens Rules on Cash Withdrawals

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AtomicForkFull Member
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#1Feb 14, 2018, 04:21 AM
Spain is making it harder to withdraw cash over 3,000 euros, with fines hitting 150k. Not surprising given the EU's trends, especially with socialists in charge.
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#2Feb 14, 2018, 07:38 AM
Yeah, it's just another way for banks to increase profits. They’re not just capping big withdrawals, they’re also watching for smaller transactions that total over 3k. Clearly, they don’t want people taking their cash out.
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#3Feb 14, 2018, 10:36 AM
I rarely need big cash amounts, but if I did, I'd just take out 1k every few days. That way, I avoid drawing attention from the tax agency. It's wild that ordinary folks have to deal with this. Can't help but think my country might follow suit.
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#4Feb 14, 2018, 11:37 AM
Can you believe fines of 150k for taking out your own cash? Ridiculous. They claim it’s to fight money laundering and such, but it feels like there's more to it. This is definitely an attack on privacy.
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#5Feb 14, 2018, 04:45 PM
I worry other countries might adopt similar laws. Some say you can’t freely use Bitcoin, which is false. But this withdrawal rule shows they’re limiting access to our cash. Plus, having to declare withdrawals 24 hours in advance? Kinda crazy.
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#6Feb 14, 2018, 09:02 PM
Spain’s new cash rules definitely point toward a world of financial surveillance. Seems like a step closer to central bank digital currencies and digital control.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#7Feb 15, 2018, 08:57 PM
Right, like Greece has a cash limit of 500 euros, and Spain and France are around 1,000. With inflation, what’s that gonna buy in 10 years? They’re making cash practically useless.
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#8Feb 15, 2018, 10:28 PM
Actually, in Greece, you can still pay cash for public services above that limit. Those organizations have to deposit the cash, so it’s a way to get cash back into the banks.
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#9Feb 15, 2018, 11:40 PM
What’s next? Should we expect random street checks where they ask to see our wallets? If this continues, the EU might turn into a surveillance state, and officials will still brag about human rights.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#10Feb 16, 2018, 06:20 AM
This could definitely spark protests. It feels like they're slowly pushing us into a corner.
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#11Feb 16, 2018, 08:19 AM
Not sure about that. They have their strategies, and one is to just stop printing cash. Eventually, people will hand it back to banks. That shouldn’t cause any uproar.
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#12Feb 16, 2018, 01:38 PM
Yeah, but it’s still up to 500 euros for cash payments in retail, or 500 plus VAT. There are ways to get around it, though. At my work, we used to split payments to stay under the limit.
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serHero Member
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#13Feb 16, 2018, 07:49 PM
I doubt many will protest, even for serious issues. Most folks in the EU seem okay with using cards. I read that in Sweden, 98% of transactions are cashless.
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#14Feb 17, 2018, 10:08 AM
I’m pretty sure they’re already planning cash limitations. I don’t mean just Greece, but all governments will find ways to restrict crypto too, through major exchanges or regulated institutions.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#15Feb 17, 2018, 03:11 PM
That's just classic smurfing, isn't it?
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#16Feb 19, 2018, 05:18 PM
I get that smurfing relates to money laundering, but people are just trying to sell things while following the rules. I think it’s a stretch.
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#17Feb 19, 2018, 06:47 PM
Not exactly. There are smurfing laws in my country too, but splitting payments to avoid the cash limit is still against Anti Money Laundering laws.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#18Feb 19, 2018, 11:08 PM
Smurfing was originally for the time with no cash limits. Now, it’s just a workaround for cash limits.
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#19Feb 21, 2018, 08:33 PM
Not sure. I couldn’t find clear rules on splitting invoices. It sounds like smurfing for sure. But I see the rationale behind it, allowing cash payments for things that shouldn’t happen.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#20Feb 21, 2018, 09:07 PM
Depends on the situation. If you buy 4 items in two separate trips, it’s fine. But if you split a 600-euro furniture payment, that’s definitely smurfing.
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