Debt isn’t real, right? Banks don’t really lend out actual cash. They create money out of thin air. For every $1, they can lend out around $9. So when you look at the US debt of 38 trillion, only a fraction is actual cash.
Is Debt Really Just an Illusion?
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silentchadMember
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#2Mar 20, 2025, 01:06 PM
What’s your angle here? This isn’t new info. Everyone knows the system runs on endless debt. It goes back to when coins turned into paper money. Without that, central banks wouldn’t even exist.
Exactly! That’s why Bitcoin matters. It’s a way for us to achieve financial freedom without government interference. Blockchain is transparent, and it exposes how countries borrow without accountability.
kevin_atlasFull Member
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#4Mar 20, 2025, 04:40 PM
You’re talking about fractional reserve banking, right? New money from that system doesn’t equal the original. It creates economic booms and busts. Cancelling debt now? That’d crash everything like in the Great Depression.
OP, your points are kinda vague. Aren’t debts just a pattern established by financial institutions? The way they recreate wealth is by leveraging debt. It’s all real, no matter how you slice it.
Yeah @coupable, what’s your main point? We all get it, countries are in debt. It’s the nature of the game. The only difference is how much they owe.
Does it even matter if debt is real? When you take on debt, you’re in it for the long haul. It affects your life, whether it’s fake or not. Money in our accounts isn’t real either; just numbers.
silentchadMember
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#8Mar 22, 2025, 10:19 AM
Theoretically, sure, Bitcoin is freedom. But does it really replace fiat? It exists in a space where it can’t fully compete with traditional money. They’re too interconnected.
Debt is definitely real. The US is sitting on a mountain of it. Economic fluctuations are based on how debt is managed, and big corporations play the game to their advantage.
Can you clarify? I’m against fiat systems but debt is real. If you think it’s not, try borrowing $1000 and only paying back a fraction. Let’s see how that works out for you.
Money holds value because we accept it. But if only 20% is real, then everything we buy feels like theft. Kinda wild to think about.
Some of what we call money isn’t real. I once had to wait to withdraw my savings because they didn’t have enough cash on hand. Feels like we’re just playing with numbers.
its_matrixSenior Member
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#13Mar 24, 2025, 09:15 AM
Debt isn’t real? If you had credit, you’d know how real it is. Miss a payment and you’re in big trouble. This isn’t a secret; it’s how banking has worked forever.
Nah, banks don’t just magically create money. The US debt isn’t cash; it’s IOUs. Digital numbers might seem unreal, but the whole system functions on it.
hodler_kingNewbie
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#15Mar 25, 2025, 03:19 AM
What’s your end game here? Debt is real because you borrow and promise to pay back with interest. If you don’t, you face consequences.
gas_oracleMember
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#16Mar 25, 2025, 11:33 AM
Imagine needing to buy something but being broke. You get a loan to pay later. That’s debt, and it’s real. Tons of people and countries rely on this.
Loans from banks come from fractional reserve banking, but national debt is different. It’s printed money sold as bonds. China holds a ton of US bonds, and they’ve profited from it.
Explain why $1 can turn into $9 in debt? Is that even real? You should check out that classic movie "It’s a Wonderful Life" for some insight.
bridge_2009Newbie
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#19Mar 27, 2025, 12:58 PM
Claiming debt isn’t real can be misleading. Even if banks create money, the debt has real consequences. Defaults lead to crises, and that’s a fact.
GigaBridgeMember
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#20Mar 27, 2025, 06:36 PM
In my view, US debt is all about legal practices that benefit the wealthy. Meanwhile, the public shoulders inflation and crises. But the US still holds a strong position globally.