Saw this post by a seasoned Bitcoin fan. Definitely brings up some thought-provoking points...
Is Bitcoin Losing Its Edge?
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orbit_2009Member
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#2Sep 19, 2023, 04:30 PM
Ran Neuner really needs to rethink Bitcoin. Dude’s been all about promoting altcoins for ages which just dilutes Bitcoin’s value. Seriously, who needs a money printer when we have tons of random tokens flooding the market?
Yeah, he's been a big Bitcoin supporter for years but you nailed it. With the 21M cap on Bitcoin, what’s stopping other cryptos from taking over? What's the real edge Bitcoin has over ETH or DOGE apart from the name? Brand loyalty fades, just look at MySpace.
But Bitcoin is still p2p cash for those who use it that way. We didn't fight for ETFs or institutions. They joined in because they realized they couldn't ignore it. Hope they appreciate Bitcoin as a value store, but having big players in the mix changes things.
orbit_2009Member
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#5Sep 20, 2023, 01:11 AM
Exactly! Altcoins are distractions for the masses. People just chase the next big thing on social media. That’s why institutions aren’t scared of Bitcoin; they know they can manipulate the market with all those tokens.
True but if these different coins do what Bitcoin does but faster and cheaper, who cares? Why label them “shitcoins”? It’s not like real-life tech companies call each other shit for being competitors.
orbit_2009Member
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#7Sep 21, 2023, 11:49 AM
You’re missing the point. The issue is the infinite supply of these shitcoins dilutes investment into Bitcoin. Influencers pushing these coins only hurt Bitcoin. It’s like the dollar losing value with money printers.
Most major coins like ETH and SOL limit their supplies too, so that doesn’t set Bitcoin apart. Sure, new products entering the market can lower the value of existing ones. That's just how capitalism rolls.
Don't you think it's early to judge based on market fluctuations? Gold is way more trusted as a store of value. Bitcoin’s still seen as risky, which hurts its narrative.
orbit_2009Member
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#10Sep 21, 2023, 06:36 PM
LOL, wrong. ETH and DOGE have infinite supplies. Look it up! That infinity symbol literally means unlimited supply. Your lack of basic facts is telling.
Come on, that’s not how it works. ETH’s supply expands on a schedule just like Bitcoin has its 21M limit coded in. It's all about trusting the tech, not an individual.
orbit_2009Member
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#12Sep 22, 2023, 12:33 PM
Dude, you’re totally wrong. ETH and DOGE have no supply cap. It's a clear infinite supply figure. Seriously, read a dictionary.
The supply expands, but there's a schedule for it. Just like Bitcoin. There’s plenty of serious competitors that function like Bitcoin. You're basically agreeing with Neuner here.
orbit_2009Member
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#14Sep 25, 2023, 01:44 AM
I can say whatever I want. Bitcoin has flaws, that’s clear. If the market can only take a certain amount, that fixed supply can hurt. No adjustments for demand, that’s a problem.
You’re still misunderstanding. Supply isn’t unwanted; it’s just not selling at that price. Lower the price, and it sells. That’s how markets work.
True, Neuner’s competition point is spot on. Bitcoin’s facing serious rivalries which could potentially pull its price down.
I agree with you on exposure and user inclusion. But I’m not a fan of CEX as wallets or ETFs. Self-custody is key to avoid centralization of Bitcoin.
nick.orbitFull Member
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#18Sep 27, 2023, 07:56 AM
Still not sold on the "digital gold" idea. Gold has been trusted for ages. People know its value. It’s more tangible, especially in chaotic times.
From what I gather, Neuner thinks Bitcoin is losing relevance with new tech like AI. Blockchain has moved on so what's the point of hodling it for gains?
ben.matrixNewbie
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#20Sep 28, 2023, 07:04 PM
We can't predict everything, but Bitcoin isn't going anywhere. It’s essential for crypto. If it fails, so does the whole crypto space. Gotta support its growth.