Just put out a pull request on Bitcoin Core to talk about a one-time consensus that could help recover around 79,956 BTC taken during the MtGox hack back in 2011.
Idea: New consensus to reclaim stolen BTC from MtGox
21 replies 119 views
tony_4tl4sMember
Posts: 85 · Reputation: 84
#2Sep 16, 2017, 03:56 AM
Are you serious right now?
I'm just trying to get a convo going. We've seen Ethereum do something similar with the DAO hack, which led to a fork. In the end, they made the call to help the folks who got hurt.
diamond_minerFull Member
Posts: 47 · Reputation: 623
#4Sep 16, 2017, 01:05 PM
This isn't Ethereum, man. No way this flies.
Okay, but what's the real argument other than ‘it's different from Ethereum’?
silentchadMember
Posts: 20 · Reputation: 248
#6Sep 16, 2017, 10:42 PM
Some people say that dormant addresses tied to Satoshi could be included in this recovery plan. But if we do that, then every time there's a hack, someone will want a new consensus rule to recover funds. That’ll ruin the whole idea of Bitcoin. Definitely won't pass, especially not for the relatively few MtGox victims.
What’s your best argument against it? Those coins have sat there for 15 years, everyone knows they’re from the hack, and some people are trying sneaky ways to claim them in court. Giving them back to MtGox customers seems like the right call and wouldn't cost much.
Nah. Fork it yourself if you want this.
This situation is pretty unique for a bunch of reasons.
Then just go for it. You’d be making another altcoin. Why would you need Core’s blessing? All existing nodes will just say no to your hard fork anyway.
AtomicForkFull Member
Posts: 110 · Reputation: 479
#11Sep 18, 2017, 05:13 PM
- Use BIP 9 miner signaling, see how many mining pools run with it. If enough jump on, it could mean airdrops for everyone, not just MtGox victims.
nova_atlasMember
Posts: 57 · Reputation: 90
#12Sep 18, 2017, 10:12 PM
The moment this happens, I'm out.
You don't realize how many people are involved.
tony_4tl4sMember
Posts: 85 · Reputation: 84
#14Sep 21, 2017, 03:16 AM
No kidding! Let's assume you're actually legit! We’ve got someone who wrecked the Bitcoin Foundation and caused chaos coming up with a plan that could sink Bitcoin!
What’s gonna happen with those recovered BTC? You just want to pocket a ton of it?
You’ve already laid out the main reasons against this in your post. It’s essentially theft. More exchanges have been hacked since MtGox and lost customer funds too. Why not recover all that? What about retail investors?
I beg to differ. Yes, I have been criticized for hiding missing bitcoins. But in Japan, most charges lead to a guilty verdict. The Bitcoin Foundation fell apart on its own.
diamond_minerFull Member
Posts: 47 · Reputation: 623
#18Sep 21, 2017, 03:34 PM
Can you show any other theft proceeds that are linked directly to a recoverable address?
silentchadMember
Posts: 20 · Reputation: 248
#19Sep 21, 2017, 05:17 PM
And then what happens with all the other hacks after this? MtGox wasn’t the first exchange to get hacked. Just last year Bybit lost over a billion bucks and nothing was done to recover that!
How can you be sure that address belongs to the hacker? There's a good chance, but not definitive proof. They could use mixers to hide their trail.
Related topics
- New Bitcoin Improvement Proposal with $100 Reward 9
- New Messaging App Using Bitcoin Blockchain Thoughts? 19
- Introducing VanitySearch: A New Tool for Bitcoin Address Prefixes 22
- Concerns Over New Soft Fork Proposal in Bitcoin 22
- Can I Convert Bitcoin Testnet to Signet BTC? 11
- New Bitcoin Client Hornet Node: What Do You Think? 3