How to Move Your Crypto Wealth to Tax-Free Countries?

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#1Jun 14, 2017, 06:56 PM
Hey guys, has anyone thought about how to dodge taxes in their country? Or even better, pay less in a different one? I live in a place where I get taxed whenever I exchange crypto. Like, when I swap BTC for ETH, I get hit with a 20% tax. Makes zero sense, right? Why not just tax me on the profit when I cash out?
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#2Jun 14, 2017, 11:35 PM
Just to clarify, exchange fees aren’t the same as VAT you’re paying. If I were in your shoes, I'd just pay the tax. It's a small contribution to the economy instead of risking legal issues. Honestly, I'm lucky to live in a tax-free country where crypto gains aren't taxed when converting to fiat.
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#3Jun 15, 2017, 01:43 AM
Seriously? That's nonsense. What does VAT have to do with @OP's question? He’s not even talking about that. Plus, how do you know if he's paying a small amount? A 20% tax on anything adds up quick. And come on, nobody goes to jail for just a small amount, get real.
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coin42Full Member
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#4Jun 15, 2017, 07:52 AM
Dude, just tell them you have Bitcoin, don’t be dumb. Use anonymizing platforms to trade and hide your coins. Only pay taxes when you cash out your profits. That 20% on every little exchange is just bleeding you dry.
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#5Jun 17, 2017, 04:40 PM
Exactly, it adds up. It’s one of the reasons crypto isn't mainstream yet. You buy a coffee with crypto, and boom extra taxes. It’s a mess.
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#6Jun 19, 2017, 08:11 AM
I feel you. Here, crypto gains are taxed at 30%. It's insane! I don't mind paying taxes, but 30%? That's rough. Instead of hunting for tax-free countries, maybe just find a P2P platform to trade.
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#7Jun 19, 2017, 02:05 PM
Thanks for the insight! I’ve heard companies can trace blockchain transactions. Aren’t you worried they’ll connect your ID to a wallet eventually? It’s risky when you send coins from exchanges, they’d know it’s yours.
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0xBossFull Member
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#8Jun 19, 2017, 05:35 PM
Yeah, it really depends. Use P2P exchanges like LocalCryptos. Can’t imagine paying a tax every time I swap BTC for ETH. Ridiculous. Honestly, I'd dodge that tax however I could.
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im_nodeNewbie
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#9Jun 19, 2017, 08:25 PM
There's no way I'm reporting my gains for taxes. Nope! I think there are ways to work around it. Use Bitcoin ATMs, pull out cash in small amounts, maybe send it to a buddy’s account and have them give you cash. Just keep it low-key.
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vector23Full Member
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#10Jun 19, 2017, 09:43 PM
Sell your bitcoins directly to friends who want them. If you know fellow investors, offer your coins. That way you avoid all the exchange hassle.
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0xGasMember
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#11Jun 19, 2017, 11:32 PM
Totally agree. It’s crazy getting taxed on crypto-to-crypto trades. There are even exchanges where you can avoid KYC under certain limits, and decentralized exchanges are another route, but I’m no expert on those.
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#12Jun 20, 2017, 12:40 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. I’m not planning to sell my crypto, I believe in Bitcoin’s future. But I do wonder how to pay fewer taxes if I ever need to, especially since some of my coins are from bounty campaigns.
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alt2016Newbie
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#13Jun 20, 2017, 06:58 AM
There’s a legal way to do this. Renounce your citizenship in the high-tax country. It’s been a trend since the 2008 crisis. Many people are moving to low-tax countries for better living costs. Digital nomads are a thing for a reason.
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#14Jun 20, 2017, 07:21 AM
Great point! But what do you lose by renouncing citizenship? I have another citizenship but pay taxes where I earn my income. So do I have to move to the Philippines?
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the_satNewbie
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#15Jun 20, 2017, 10:11 AM
Why not just trade anonymously, buy physical goods instead? If profits are taxed at 30%, how much are taxes on buying electronics? Probably way less than on capital gains.
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BasedOrbitSenior Member
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#16Jun 20, 2017, 11:15 AM
In my country, there’s no tax on crypto. Super chill here.
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vector_2009Senior Member
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#17Jun 20, 2017, 02:33 PM
Some countries don’t tax crypto exchanges. But if you live where taxes exist, you gotta deal with it. I hate paying taxes too, but I need cash to spend. Can’t just leave my coins sitting.
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#18Jun 21, 2017, 01:57 PM
Wait, 20% tax on BTC to ETH? That’s wild! In that case, if you convert 10k USD, you pay 2k in taxes??? That’s outrageous.
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GigaYieldFull Member
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#19Jun 21, 2017, 02:30 PM
Not sure how you can do it, unless you have trust in someone from a tax-free place. If you have Revolut, you could sell on Coinbase and transfer to Revolut. Fees should be low and you can use it like cash.
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lonealphaNewbie
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#20Jun 21, 2017, 05:05 PM
Avoiding taxes isn't illegal! You have options to convert crypto to fiat without those crazy fees. Peer-to-peer trading can help, or buy stuff with crypto and sell it later to make legit cash.
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