Is a Bitcoin ATM Without Custody Even Possible?

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alexsatNewbie
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#1Apr 29, 2021, 05:45 PM
I was thinking about whether a Bitcoin ATM could exist without needing someone to hold your coins. If ATMs aren’t custodial, does that mean we could skip KYC? Seems unlikely.
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coin07Full Member
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#2Apr 29, 2021, 05:50 PM
Honestly, I doubt they could ditch KYC entirely. Regulations from FinCEN in the US or MiCA in the EU would still apply, even if the ATM's role is limited.
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#3Apr 29, 2021, 11:32 PM
Sure, it could happen. But ATMs without KYC sound super risky. How do you deal with credit cards or digital funds? It's a recipe for chargebacks and theft.
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yield21Member
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#4May 1, 2021, 01:17 PM
I don’t see how the ATM company profits from this setup. If they’re taking cash from sellers, they’d lose money unless they charge fees. Plus, tax implications are tricky.
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wizard_2016Full Member
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#5May 1, 2021, 06:21 PM
From what I know, needing ID at an ATM is more about anti-money laundering rules, not custodianship. ATMs don’t hold your funds, right?
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alexsatNewbie
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#6May 1, 2021, 09:08 PM
Good points! I imagined a setup where cash is checked for counterfeits, and BTC transactions could be instant if you acted as a buyer for an existing order. But the regulatory stuff might still apply.
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coin07Full Member
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#7May 1, 2021, 10:00 PM
Your last point got cut off. But yeah, with P2P, it’s tough to have instant transactions since you’re dealing with real people on the other side.
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alexsatNewbie
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#8May 1, 2021, 10:20 PM
Exactly! Even if you’re the buyer, the seller needs to confirm receipt before anything happens. It’s all on-chain, so there’s no way it’s instantaneous.
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alex.byteLegendary
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#9May 2, 2021, 04:18 AM
You got a point. It'd take time unless sellers could signal they’re available and agree to quick confirmations. That could work.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#10May 2, 2021, 06:39 AM
Implementing that would be tricky, though. Many ATMs are locked behind doors, making it feel like a prison. What if buyers and sellers met in a secure area?
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0xRocketMember
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#11May 2, 2021, 07:49 AM
I think there are simpler options. I’ve seen ATMs where you get a QR code to send a transaction from home, then just withdraw cash once it’s confirmed. Way easier.
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alex.byteLegendary
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#12May 3, 2021, 05:03 PM
What about an ATM that asks users to send BTC to a specific address, then sells it at a lower rate? No P2P involved, and it could avoid KYC.
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#13May 3, 2021, 09:24 PM
But you still have to visit the ATM physically, and there’s usually limits on transactions. KYC could be requested anytime.
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0xVectorFull Member
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#14May 3, 2021, 11:06 PM
Hypothetically speaking, it’s impossible in the EU now. KYC is mandatory for all transactions, and setting up a physical machine involves costs and regulations.
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alex.byteLegendary
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#15May 3, 2021, 11:58 PM
+1, they’ll still want your phone number or something. Temporary numbers won’t cut it.
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#16May 4, 2021, 05:19 AM
In Poland, I bought BTC without much hassle, but it’s risky. Locking someone in a room while transacting? That’s a recipe for disaster.
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alex.byteLegendary
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#17May 5, 2021, 09:35 AM
Governments won’t allow these ATMs to operate without oversight. They’re worried about crypto being used in crimes, so they’ll enforce regulations.
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gigamoonMember
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#18May 5, 2021, 01:10 PM
If you have to show ID, risks of data leaks make people hesitant to transact. I’d prefer to let someone else handle my ID.
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alexsatNewbie
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#19May 5, 2021, 03:10 PM
Great idea! A cash-only locker system with P2P is creative to avoid custodianship. But it’s complicated, and people still have to trust the company.
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gr3g.4ltFull Member
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#20May 5, 2021, 06:14 PM
Interesting concept, but I’d want it more automated. Both parties meeting up complicates things. What if they could verify their identities without seeing each other?
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