Ark: A New Take on Privacy and Scalability

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dave.forkMember
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#1Apr 19, 2023, 04:10 AM
So, on May 22, Burak Keceli dropped an email in the developer mailing list talking about a new layer-two solution. This one supposedly scales better and has way better privacy than Lightning. It’s like Chaumian eCash but without centralized risks and uses shared outputs. Sounds intriguing, right?
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0xNodeMember
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#2Apr 19, 2023, 04:17 AM
That’s cool, but I’m also working on a Lightning wallet. If it's all in Python, we could collaborate. I'm just trying to hash out some ideas. Got thoughts?
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0xLaserFull Member
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#3Apr 19, 2023, 07:19 AM
But wait, the whole watchtower thing seems kinda sketchy. You’re saying you can secure your wallet password with AES? What if an attacker gets in faster than you can decrypt?
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diamondhandsHero Member
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#4Apr 19, 2023, 11:19 AM
Honestly, even using 64-bit UNIX timestamps sounds like a weak key. If the algorithm takes too long, it could mess up the whole decryption process. Not a fan of that.
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chad69Newbie
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#5Apr 21, 2023, 03:03 PM
What even is the deal with double-spending? Does Ark have some issues with that? I read their FAQ and it made me go hmm... also, no BTC donations through Ark? Kinda suspicious.
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#6Apr 21, 2023, 08:00 PM
I find Ark’s concept super interesting. If it can cut out the need for liquidity like Lightning, that’s a win. But the lack of public code and slow team responses? Not so great.
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chad69Newbie
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#7Apr 22, 2023, 12:34 AM
So, double-spending is a risk with LN too? Does that mean we’re in the same boat here?
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chad69Newbie
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#8Apr 22, 2023, 06:48 AM
Wait, how is it that LN is also prone to double-spending? Can someone break that down?
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wizard69Full Member
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#9Apr 22, 2023, 07:50 AM
Another red flag popped up about Ark on Twitter. Not loving this trend...
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0xNodeMember
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#10Apr 22, 2023, 08:33 AM
From what I’m seeing, Ark is still early-stage, right? Is it really ready for prime time? Also, they say it works with Lightning, but why not replace it instead?
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wizard69Full Member
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#11Apr 24, 2023, 09:52 AM
Why does criticizing LN and pushing for big blocks raise eyebrows? I mean, I do think LN has issues, especially with its inbound capacity.
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dave.forkMember
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#12Apr 24, 2023, 10:27 AM
I noticed another thread on this. Maybe we should just merge it and keep the chat going there?
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#13Apr 24, 2023, 10:22 PM
One year from now, I wonder what’s changed. Ark’s overview is updated and they’re launching Ark Labs. Ark v2 is out too. Anyone checked the roadmap?
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dave.forkMember
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#14Apr 25, 2023, 12:10 AM
What’s this upcoming soft fork people keep talking about? Anyone got details?
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#15Apr 25, 2023, 01:20 AM
About those covenant proposals... which ones are actually safe or efficient?
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dave.forkMember
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#16Apr 25, 2023, 05:37 AM
I think BIP-119 is the big name in covenants, but not sure how it stacks up against others. I've seen people mentioning OP_CAT too, but that sounds risky for block space.
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0xNodeMember
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#17Apr 25, 2023, 05:50 AM
So, is the only difference in Ark v2 that you can stop a node whenever? It’d be cool if there was a way to use Ark without running a node like with some LN wallets.
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#18Apr 25, 2023, 09:07 PM
I’m into CTV, but all these competing ideas make me second-guess. OP_CAT seems cool, but it could be a disaster for block space.
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dave.forkMember
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#19Apr 26, 2023, 11:24 PM
Just saw a tweet explaining Ark can work with less interactivity and without a soft fork. Seems promising!
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dave.forkMember
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#20Apr 27, 2023, 05:13 AM
There’s a new FAQ thread up. Maybe we should shift some of the nitty-gritty discussions there.
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