Almost 50 countries are jumping on board to put the Crypto-Asset Reporting Framework into their laws by 2027... This could change the game for how taxes are handled with crypto.
47 nations agree to implement Crypto-Asset Reporting Framework by 2027
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AtomicForkFull Member
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#2Feb 20, 2017, 11:35 PM
For sure... but this feels like another step towards total surveillance. I mean, how much control can they really have? It's like the old frog in boiling water thing... nobody’s protesting, it's too gradual.
Last I checked, there were over 186 countries. So 47 agreeing means a lot of others aren't in the loop. Who knows what's going on with those 80 or so unaccounted countries?
If the big economies sign off on this, the smaller players will follow. No way does China ignore it; they’re major trade partners. UAE is already making strides in financial oversight too.
its_walletMember
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#5Feb 22, 2017, 06:53 PM
The number of countries doesn’t change the fact that this is about the biggest economies sharing info. Even if small countries skip out, the big ones make the rules.
CalmFalconMember
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#6Feb 22, 2017, 10:21 PM
How's this monitoring gonna work, though? Is it just connecting the dots for taxes? Nowadays, exchanges already ask for customer info.
Honestly, using centralized services is a big red flag. If you rely on them, expect all your transactions to be reported to the tax man. Each country has a different take on tax crimes too.
CalmFalconMember
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#8Feb 23, 2017, 08:17 AM
Totally agree! In my place, using centralized services means they tax you automatically. But if I don’t report crypto savings, it's chill until I sell it... that might change though.
There are still plenty of no-KYC exchanges around... I use a couple for small trades when needed. They could demand KYC anytime though.
CalmFalconMember
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#10Feb 24, 2017, 05:01 AM
Local exchanges still work for me too, at least for now. No crazy KYC yet... but I bet changes are coming. Election cycles might shake things up.
wallet_oracleMember
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#11Feb 24, 2017, 07:32 PM
Funny how Hong Kong and UAE aren’t on the list, huh? That’s where a ton of crypto companies are moving. Plus, no China or Russia... seems political.
tony_4tl4sMember
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#12Feb 24, 2017, 10:34 PM
I mean, yeah... but where the money flows is key. Just because they don’t have offices in those countries doesn’t mean they aren’t impacting things.
wallet_oracleMember
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#13Feb 24, 2017, 11:23 PM
You mentioned companies, but dropped a list of exchanges. Come on, man, that's not the same thing!
tony_4tl4sMember
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#14Feb 26, 2017, 11:55 AM
Okay, fair enough. But look, having an office in Dubai still matters, especially with the US breathing down their necks about regulations.
wallet_oracleMember
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#15Feb 26, 2017, 12:24 PM
Thanks for clarifying... I see your point. Still, my bet is that these companies will set up in more crypto-friendly countries if the US keeps being hostile.
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